Philippians 4:3-4 hWN TA ONOMATA EN BIBLW ZWHS

Carl W. Conrad cwconrad at artsci.wustl.edu
Fri Dec 17 10:03:51 EST 1999


Your original question was:
>>The 3rd and 4th verses of Phillipians 4 are divided up thusly. Is there
>>another possible division?
>>
>>Philippians
>>4:3
>>NAI ERWTW KAI SE GNHSIE SUZUGE SULLAMBANOU AUTAIS AITINES EN TW EUAGGELIW
>>SUNHQLHSAN MOI META KAI KLHMENTOS KAI TWN LOIPWN SUNERGWN MOU hWN TA
>>ONOMATA EN BIBLW ZWHS
>>4:4
>>CAIRETE EN KURIW PANTOTE PALIN ERW CAIRETE
>>
>>Could you begin a sentece with hWN, as in:
>>
>>"Whose names are written in Life's Book, rejoice in the Lord always!"

At 8:19 AM -0600 12/17/99, Bill Ross wrote:
><Carl>
>
>...The very fact that a relative pronoun is used in hWN TA ONOMATA EN
>BIBLWi ZWHS is an indication that the writer did NOT consider the clause
>beginning with hWN to be an independent unit; he could very easily have
>written something like: EKEINWN GAR TA ONOMATA EN BIBLWI ZWHS (ESTIN).
>
><Bill>
>
>Are you saying that the relative pronoun allows for the admonition XAIRETE
>EN KURIW to be a partner to the ONOMATA clause?

No; you've missed my point; what I said was that 4:2-3 constituted a single
sentence in the Greek, that the verse-divisions in our text very often,
even most of the time, have little to do with natural sense divisions in
either the Greek or the English. 4:4 is a new sentence; one indicator of
this is that there isn't any particle associated with it that would
indicate a link to what precedes it. But there's no way that CAIRETE EN
KURIWi PANTOTE PALIN ERW CAIRETE can be construed as a continuation in the
Greek of what precedes it in hWN TA ONOMATA EN BIBLWI ZWHS.

It occurs to me also to clarify further something that both Carlton and I
were saying about sentences beginning with relative clauses; I would say
that a sentence CAN begin with a relative clause, IF AND ONLY IF the
antecedent is in a clause that follows: e.g. hOSOI AN THS FWNHS MOU
AKOUWSIN EKEINOI POIMNIA EMA EISIN--where hOSOI must be construed with
EKEINOI.

One other point, Bill: PLEASE SIGN YOUR MESSAGES. That's a requirement of
the list netiquette; although in my own mailer I can see your name in the
FROM: header, some people don't actually get to see the FROM; headers.

-- 

Carl W. Conrad
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