In 1 John 4:7b KAI PAS hO AGAPWN EK TOU QEOU GEGENNHTAI KAI GINWSKI TON QHEON. Could one say that PAS hO AGAPWN is consequential to EK TOU QEOU GEGENNHTAI, because AGAPWN is in the present tense and GEGENNHTAI is in the perfect tense? Mike Piles ---- BREPHOS