"Grammatical" Categories correction

clayton stirling bartholomew c.s.bartholomew at worldnet.att.net
Mon Sep 20 14:24:38 EDT 1999


Calling Agent and Recipient syntax functions is going to bother some 
people including me. I think these are semantic functions not syntax
functions.

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Clayton Stirling Bartholomew
Three Tree Point
P.O. Box 255 Seahurst WA 98062


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>From: "clayton stirling bartholomew" <c.s.bartholomew at worldnet.att.net>
>To: "b-greek" <b-greek at franklin.oit.unc.edu>
>Subject: Re: "Grammatical" Categories
>Date: Mon, Sep 20, 1999, 11:20 AM
>

>
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>>From: George Goolde <goolde at mtnempire.net>
>>To: Biblical Greek <b-greek at franklin.oit.unc.edu>
>>Subject: "Grammatical" Categories
>>Date: Mon, Sep 20, 1999, 10:01 AM
>>
>
>> For example, we begin with a word that is clearly in the Genitive (or
>> Genitive/Ablative) case.  We immediately eliminate usages which are
>> substantive (nominative) or objective (accusative) and begin a conscious or
>> unconscious process of elimination to determine what meaning we find in the
>> text.
>
> George,
>
> Can we really "eliminate" syntax functions without reference to the
> context? If I am not mistaken the genitive case can function as an Agent
> with a participle (genitive absolute). The genitive can also function as
> the Recipient of the action specified in a finite verb. So based on the
> case form alone I don't think we can "eliminate" these functional
> categories. What can be "eliminated" based on the case form alone is
> really a fairly tricky and somewhat controversial question.
>
> Clay
>
> --
> Clayton Stirling Bartholomew
> Three Tree Point
> P.O. Box 255 Seahurst WA 98062
>
>
> PS
>
> I know that this is not the main point of your post. I am not responding
> to the main point but just looking at a related question raised by your
> statement as quoted. It is possible that we are actually agreeing with
> one another but I wanted to respond just to your statement as quoted. 



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