John 3:3 (was Re: John 3:3 and John 1:5)

Stevens, Charles C Charles.Stevens at unisys.com
Wed Jan 12 12:30:07 EST 2000


On 11 January 2000 at 8:31PM, Stephen C. Carlson wrote:  

<<I thought about John 3:3 quite a bit, and the closest English pun
I come up with is: "... unless they are born over."  ... Another possibility
is "born from the top.">>

I believe there were *two* issues in GENNHQHi ANwQEN:  the one cited on
ANWQEN (again / from above) and the underlying non-gender-specificity of of
GENNAW "bring forth [non-specific], beget [as a male], bear [as a female]".


The original (before the editors revised the New Testament)  of the New
American Bible" (1970) translates v. 3 as "... unless he is begotten from
above.", and Nicodemus' answer in v.4 as "How can a man be born again once
he is old?".   The notes postulate a misunderstanding on the part of
Nicodemus as to what Jesus actually meant by both GENNHQHi and ANWQEN in
v.3, and that v.5ff is a clarification that he really meant "begotten from
above", not "born again".    This interpretation did not survive the
revision to the *translation*, though as I recall it is reflected in the
footnotes of later editions.    I believe it is defensible from the Greek.


	-Chuck Stevens 



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