GALATIANS, DIA

abilene abilene at ifrance.com
Fri Jun 16 09:38:14 EDT 2000


> I think that there really should be no difference between META (w/acc + time) and DIA
(w/gen +
> time).  It seems that they are the same.  Does anyone have any other references for this
use of
> DIA?  I would appreciate them.
>
> Jason

Perhaps 1 Tim 2:15 is a case in point. DIA THS TEKNOGONIAS seems to be implying the curse
against Eve and that women will be saved 'after' they have experienced this curse. That
is, women will be saved after they have gone through the Eve-curse so long as they are
faithful, loving, holy and self-controlled. I don't think Paul is stating that
childbearing is the agent of salvation.

Best regards,
GEORGE ATHAS

It seems important to distinguish DIA from META.
Two days ago, sending a message for the first time, I forgot to indicate the subject.
The translatation from french is not very easy, and the explanation seemed perhaps obscure
Please, let me  try again...

DIA+ GEN = at the distance of , after an interval of,  at the end of -
     Gal 2 , 1-2. " Then, at the end of fourteen years, I went up  again to Jerusalem...
     and I went up by revelation"
Paul came at Jerusalem  in a sabbatical year,  "at the end"of fourteen years.
Every seven year is a sabbatical year; so fourteen years means "two sabbatical years later".
In the Talmud, sabbatical years served for dating the events.
The conversion too was in a sabbatical year.14 years are counted from OTE (Gal 1,15) and not
from EPEITA META ETH TRIA (Gal1/21).

In another Epistle Paul said:
" I know a man in Christ from  fourteen years ...  such an one caught up to the third heaven"
2 Co 12/2.
A"man in Christ  from  fourteen years " means that  he had been baptized fourteen years ago.
He received the baptism just after his conversion => 2 Co 12.2 and Gal 2.1 indicate the same
sabbatical years. When he returned to Jerusalem with Barnabe he was bringing helps for the
community suffering from the famine which occurred in 48 ;  47-48 was a sabbatical year;
conclusion the conversion of Paul succeeded during the sabbatical year 33-34.
is'it clear ? I hope it...

Would the example  in 1 Tm 2.15 with DIA present TEKNOGONIAS as a curse ? The same appears in
John 16,21 and Rev 12,4, whith a comparison between birth and death (disappearance) . Quite
the contrary in Luke where  birth is a joy (Lk 1.14,57etc).

Respectfully,
Sylva Abilene
Paris


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