BDAG at Rv 3:14 - Christ was the first creation now probable

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Tue Jan 23 16:59:34 EST 2001



In a message dated 1/23/01 2:36:29 PM, emory2oo2 at hotmail.com writes:

<< I notice you give THS KTISEWS a verbal idea (he begins) in your question. 
hH 
ARCH as "begin" or "beginning" when used of an individual seems odd to me. I 
guess I see this as simply: the ruler of God's creation. (How about for hH 
ARCH we translate it "the initiator" of God's creation.)

And yet, do we ever find the concept of "coming into being" (as in "being 
born") when KTISEWS is used in relation to A SPECIFIC INDIVIDUAL, as opposed 
to creation in general?


My thoughts/question,
 >>

Actually it is hH ARCH that has the verbal idea. Initiator of creation would 
be the same idea. As to your second point, I'm not sure its particularly 
relevant since the whole phrase refers to an individual. So it refers to the 
first creation or the one who begins creation. The objective gen seems more 
likely than the attributed gen.

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