BDAG at Rv 3:14 - Christ was the first creation now probable

GregStffrd at aol.com GregStffrd at aol.com
Wed Jan 24 01:06:04 EST 2001


In a message dated 01/23/2001 9:46:25 PM Pacific Standard Time, CEP7 writes:

<< ARCH is cognate to the verb ARCOMAI so it is a verbal noun.  ARCH is 
distinct from QEOU. QEOU is the ultimate agent. ARCH would refer to the 
intermediate agent.
 
 Charles E. Powell, Ph.D. >>


But we are asking about the verbal ideas implicit in ARCH, as the head noun 
in an objective genitive expression. ARCOMAI is not used in this verse, 
hence, any verbal idea for the head term must be implicit in ARCH, but I do 
not see it here, or elsewhere. Being a cognate to ARCOMAI does not 
necessarily give it an implicit verbal idea. 

I realize ARCH is distinct from QEOU. That is my point: the creation is TOU 
QEOU, so if we accept "beginner" for ARCH then who did the creating, hH ARCH 
or hO QEOS? How do you understand TOU QEOU in relation to hH ARCH in this 
verse?

Greg



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