Fw: Rev.3:14 again
HARRYJ
jharry at szczecin.cc
Thu Jan 25 02:48:14 EST 2001
I have tried unsuccessfully to mail this letter to you, but this is not recorded in my ‘sent’ mail, and once I got the message
----- Original Message -----
From: HARRYJ
To: Wes Williams
Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2001 7:37 AM
Subject: Rev.3:14 again
I have tried unsuccessfully to mail this letter to you, but this is not recorded in my ‘sent’ mail, and once I got the message that the address had an error. I put a space (division) between your first name and surname, which may have been the cause. So here I go again. If you do not wish to receive any mail apart from the b-greek mediation, I will respect it, just as I try to respect the ‘no‑theology’ b-greek rule. But I would like to know if my letter has made it to you. I will now try to ‘paste’ my original letter content onto this one.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 9:07 PM
Subject: Rev.3:14 etc.
Dear Wes,
I followed your advice and sent my e-mail to the general b-greek, but my surmise was correct that it would not be published. Quite rightly so, if the purpose is just to exchange views on the linguistic aspect. That does not mean, however, that members of the b-greek cannot start discussions in some smaller groups on aspects that have theological and spiritual overtones.
I admire your patience in explaining things to other people. Myself, I do not have this patience, and the teaching, the doctrine of Christ, the Truth in other words, is most important to me. Greek is only of subsidiary importance, which is why I only have a smattering of it. I learned it only to form an opinion on passages that are translated in a variety of ways, or are downright mistranslations and falsifications. To me Revelation 3:14 means what it says and says what it means and I do not see any reason for discussing it; some people engage in mental acrobatics to prove their point, but if such a person rejects the obvious truth, there is no point in discussion. As for Greek, I am a linguist (English philologist, but I also teach some German), so I am in my element when learning foreign languages; but life is so short, and the rock-bottom Truth so difficult to arrive at, which is why I do not expand much my knowledge of Greek. I may write some day about my interpretation of the Lord's Prayer, specifically 'the daily bread' bit, which I think is a mistranslation, and also on the 'baptism for the dead', which is a puzzle to many people, and in these two cases there is still something to say, even though the matter was discussed in the past. I intend to write publicly to the b-greek, as my analysis is based on the linguistic aspect.
As for Christ being created or not, a point strictly bound with the trinity doctrine, I have thought about for about twenty years, (I am 54 now), and have summed up my views in a short article, although I know that thick volumes have been written about it. I would like to forward it to you and ask your opinion about it. I wrote it in Polish, German and English. I originally wrote it to the Campus Crusade people, so the introduction will be included. This is not to teach you of course, as you have already stated that you share my views; it is just to ask you for opinion, if you care to read it.
I have also written to some people who engaged in Rev.3:14 discussion, but the response is invariable: dead silence. As for the 'public b-greek' discussion I feel obliged to observe their rules: no theology, although it is often difficult to keep things apart.
Best wishes for now
Henryk Jedraszczak
jharry at szczecin.cc
from February I will probably abandon this address, as it has to be paid for, and does not provide any additional attractions, and there are a lot of breakdowns. I will use harryj at poczta.onet.pl, which is free, hardly any breakdowns, and a lot of additional service. It is already valid, so I can be contacted at this address even now.
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