Luke 2:2

Kevin W. Woodruff cierpke at prodigy.net
Tue Jun 26 16:47:28 EDT 2001


Perhaps it is being contrast with the more famous later census that happened
in 6 A.D. (or 6 C.E.) as described by Josephus in Antiquities 18.1.6
Kevin 

At 08:26 PM 6/26/2001 -0000, you wrote:
>
>Carl wrote:
>
>Personally, I agree that hAUTH hH APOGRAFH is most probably the original 
>form of the subject; I think, however, that PRWTH is adverbial with  EGENETO 
>(and that the word-order PRWTH EGENETO is more probable) and that EGENETO 
>does here mean "occurred/took place" (= Latin FACTUS EST), and finally that 
>hHGEMONEUONTOS THS SURIAS KURHNIOU is a genitive absolute explaining PRWTH 
>EGENETO: "This census first took place/was held when Quirinius was governor 
>of Syria."
>
>To which Iver responded:
>
>But I still have a problem trying to make sense of the traditional  
>translation. If we say "This census first took place" or "This census took 
>place first" at a particular time what does that mean? Was it not finished 
>and had to be repeated a second time? Is there any contrast with another 
>census? If there is not contrast, the word order is wrong.
>
>My naive question:
>
>Does not hAUTH itself imply a constrast? hH would have been sufficient to 
>reference the APOGRAFH of the previous verse. In fact, I would have 
>understood hH as demonstrative anyway. Why the hAUTH?
>
>Mark Wilson
>
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