Luke 19:11 and grammatical marking

Mike Sangrey msangrey at BlueFeltHat.org
Thu Apr 18 15:36:31 EDT 2002


Gosh, Steve, what takes you so long to reply?  <chuckle>

BTW, maybe it's best you don't have Accordance handy (though I wouldn't
mind knowing how it has labeled it).  That means you have to rely on
your intuition.  And that might be better, at least initially.

I just did some double checks and discovered John 11:18, which is 
    HN DE hH BHQANIA EGGUS TWN hIEROSOLUMWN hWS APO STADIWN DEKAPENTE.
    
Here hIEROSOLUMWN is morphologically genitive but we can think of it as
ablative and say that Bethany is 15 stadia FROM Jerusalem, especially
since the case is "helped" along by APO.  So, I'm not sure this helps me
much.  This is a little different than thinking of being near TO
Jerusalem.  Also, EGGUS is a preposition here and an adverb in Luke
19:11; however, that might be pushing English into the Greek.


On Thu, 2002-04-18 at 14:55, Steve Lovullo wrote:
> Mike:
> 
> I'm at work right now, so I don't have Accordance handy. But my guess is
> dative, construed with EGGUS ("near to Jerusalem").
> 
> Steve Lo Vullo
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Mike Sangrey [mailto:msangrey at BlueFeltHat.org]
> > Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 1:50 PM
> > To: Biblical Greek
> > Subject: [b-greek] Luke 19:11 and grammatical marking
> > 
> > 
> > AKOUONTWN DE AUTWN TAUTA PROSQEIS EIPEN PARABOLHN DIA TO EGGUS EINAI
> > IEROUSALHM AUTON KAI DOKEIN AUTOUS hOTI PARAXRHMA MELLEI hH 
> > BASILEIA TOU
> > QEOU ANAFAINESQAI
> > 
> > What I'm really after is in the phrase:
> >     DIA TO EGGUS EINAI IEROUSALHM AUTON
> > 
> > IEROUSALHM is indeclinable.  But, if you were creating a 
> > database which
> > required you to grammatically label it, with what case would you label
> > it?
> > 
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