Middle and Passive Aorist and Future forms

Paul Dixon dixonps at juno.com
Wed Dec 11 23:10:48 EST 2002



On Wed, 11 Dec 2002 20:04:37 -0600 "Carl W. Conrad"
<cwconrad at artsci.wustl.edu> writes:
> At 5:59 PM -0800 12/11/02, Harry  W. Jones wrote:
> >Well BDF says, "NT authors in general preserve well the distinction 
> between
> >middle and passive." page 165 sec. 316.  So I wonder why people 
> want to
> >make complicated that which is so simple.
> 
> I certainly don't want to make complicated what is simple; what I 
> object to
> is ignoring the complexity that is there--or put it more simply, and 
> state
> what I really mean: I think that statements like that in BDF may 
> seem valid
> insofar as one IGNORES the number of so-called "deponent" verb forms 
> that
> have "middle" and "passive" morphoparadigms but are excluded from
> classification as having the meanings of middles and passives. I now 
> have a
> preliminary count based on analysis of all GNT -QH- "future 
> passives." I
> had to eliminate several forms of DUNHSOMAI which were erroneously 
> tagged
> as passive in Accordance (is there anyone who thinks the verb 
> DUNAMAI is
> passive?); that made my total of -QHSOMAI KTL. forms 287; of these I 
> deemed
> 167 bore probably authentic passive meaning, 120 others probably 
> authentic
> middle meaning. I think that there are some forms on both lists that 
> could
> be argued as belonging in the other; for some verbs I've 
> distinguished
> instances to divided usage. Undoubtedly there will be some real 
> differences
> of opinion over this tally, but tomorrow I'll try to find a way to 
> put up
> the entire list and point to those verbs or verb forms that seem to 
> me most
> ambivalent. But enough for one day already.

Carl:

I'm not sure how Accordance works, if you enter the parameters or if it
is internally programmed, but I seriously doubt that 286 is any where
near the correct total.  We started with the same or near same totals,
but in 31 hits I considered, 9 had to be thrown out as variants of
AKOLOUQETEIN or TIQHMI or an aorist passive.  I suspect your total
included the same; hence, the correct total is probably closer to 200, if
9 of 31 had to be discounted as future passive forms and if that is
typical.

Paul Dixon

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