FW: RE: Psalm 129 LXX

Paul Wendland wendlanp at wls.wels.net
Thu Dec 26 23:18:42 EST 2002




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Paul O. Wendland
Wisconsin Lutheran Seminary
wendlanp at wls.wels.net

-----Original Message-----
From: wendlanp at wls.wels.net [mailto:wendlanp at wls.wels.net]
Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2002 4:20 PM
To: Albert Pietersma
Subject: RE: [b-greek] RE: Psalm 129 LXX


Albert:

No doubt you are right on this:

||It seems to me, Paul, that your label "translationese" explains
||why the authorities
||(Wallace etc) would make no mention of hOTI =  KY = "but". Since
||grammar documents
||usage in the living language and since translationese is by
||definition NOT the living
||language, one cannot claim that hOTI ever means  "but".
||Differently put, unless one
||can demonstrate that hOTI  means "but" in normal Greek usage, one
||has no warrant for
||translating hOTI in  Ps 129.4 by "but" (whatever Hebrew KY is
||thought to mean there).

Especially after looking at Jerome I had to conclude that his quia = hOTI
causal (but declarative is also a possibility with later Latin.)  If we
accept it as causal, that does raise Richard's question again: what causal
or grounds connection did they see between the two. That Jerome saw it as
causal would explain his rendition of the clause that follows (iuxta
Hebraicem veritatem): "cum terribilis sis"--an attempt to lessen the
"strangeness" of the close connection of "who will withstand//because with
you is propitiation----though terrible you be!"

I appreciated your thoughts.

Paul
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Paul O. Wendland
Wisconsin Lutheran Seminary
wendlanp at wls.wels.net




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