Phil 4:6 ALL EN PANTI

Harry W. Jones hwjones2 at earthlink.net
Sun Dec 29 20:32:55 EST 2002



Hi Carl!

I agree we went over PAS in 1Timothy 2:4 before.  But I don't believe any
guide lines were ever arrived at for translating PAS as  "All" vs "Every".
My grammar by Stevens gives

PAS(sg) + noun(sg) = "every ______"

PANTES(pl) + noun(pl) = "all ______"

for anarthrous constructions.

And 

PAS + [article + noun] = "all the _____"

[article + PAS ] + noun = "the whole ______"

for articular constructions.

Now I just don't see how "every" is the same as "all" , though.

But what do you think?

Best,
Harry Jones

> [Original Message]
> From: Carl W. Conrad <cwconrad at artsci.wustl.edu>
> To: Harry  W. Jones <hwjones2 at earthlink.net>
> Cc: Biblical Greek <b-greek at franklin.oit.unc.edu>
> Date: 12/29/02 5:44:17 AM
> Subject: [b-greek] Re: Phil 4:6 ALL EN PANTI
>
> At 1:19 PM -0800 12/28/02, Harry  W. Jones wrote:
> >Greetings to All!
> >
> >I have a question. Is PANTI here referring to "in all things" or "in all
> >kind of things" giving thanks? And how do you know?
>
> Seems to me we went through this about PAS once before; Harry, it's a
> neuter singular substantive. I don't think you can make it "every sort of
> =2E.." without its being adjectival and used with a noun.At any rate,
take a
> look at BDAG:
> ---------------
> PAS: 2. any entity out of a totality, any and every, every b. as subst.
> without the art., [BETA] PAN, w. prep.: DIA PANTOS s. dia=BF A 2a. EN
PANTI
> in every respect or way, in everything (Pla., Symp. 194a; X., Hell. 5, 4,
> 29; SIG 1169, 27; Sir 18:27; 4 Macc 8:3; GrBar 9:8) PLOUTIZESQAI 1 Cor
1:5;
> 2 Cor 9:11. Cp. 2 Cor 4:8; 7:5, 11, 16; 8:7; 9:8b; 11:6a, 9; Eph 5:24;
Phil
> 4:6; 1 Th 5:18.
> -- 
>
> Carl W. Conrad
> Department of Classics, Washington University (Emeritus)
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