Phil. 1:23

c stirling bartholomew cc.constantine at worldnet.att.net
Sun Jun 23 17:45:37 EDT 2002


on 6/23/02 1:16 PM, c stirling bartholomew wrote:

> Tony,
> 
> on 6/23/02 11:04 AM, tmcos at canada.com wrote:
> 
>> THN EPIQUMIAN EXWN EIS TO ANALUSAI KAI SUN XRISTWi
>> EINAI, POLLW MALLOV KREISSON.
>> 
>> Is there a participle phrase in this sentence?
> 
> THN EPIQUMIAN EXWN looks like the top level of a participle constituent where
> the following two infinitives TO ANALUSAI KAI SUN XRISTWi EINAI define the
> content of EPIQUMIAN, answering the question, What did Paul desire?
> 
> 
>> I am
>> trying to make sense of TO ANALUSAI KAI SUN XRISTWi
>> EINAI. Does this construct imply that with Paul's
>> departing, breaking camp, or weighing anchor (as
>> ANALUSAI can be translated)he would be immediately
>> "with" (SUN) "Christ" (XRISTWi)? I am gathering this
>> from the context which seems to indicate that Paul is
>> anticipating his own death.
> 
> Don't think KAI can be used to support any conjecture about the timing of
> this. You might find this notion " immediately" somewhere else in the text but
> it isn't a semantic feature of  TO ANALUSAI KAI SUN XRISTWi EINAI.
> 

Tony,

Someone will undoubtedly come along and say, "But what about the two
infinitives with a single article?" Does not this show a "close connection
between the two infinitives? (see PT O'Brian, Phil. NIGTC)

Yes it does show some sort of relationship between TO ANALUSAI and SUN
XRISTWi EINAI. But it does not specifically indicate a simultaneous temporal
relationship. 

I looked at about 30 examples of  article -> infin. KAI infin. in GNT and
LXX and it looks like there are numerous cases where the two infinitives
form a single idea e.g., TO ESQIEIN KAI PINEIN. But there are other examples
where the infinitives fall into a temporal sequence e.g.  TO EMPAIXAI KAI
MASTIGWSAI KAI STAURWSAI. In 1CHR. 26:29 . . . TOU GRAMMATEUEIN KAI
DIAKRINEIN the two infinitives describe different activities probably
performed by different individuals at diverse times. 2KINGS 5:7  . . . TOU
QANATWSAI KAI ZWOPOIHSAI these infinitives might form a single idea and
might not. I suspect they do in this case.

Anyway, I would be rather cautious about making any absolute statements
about the temporal significance of this syntactical pattern.


MATT. 11:1 KAI EGENETO hOTE ETELESEN hO IHSOUS DIATASSWN TOIS DWDEKA
MAQHTAIS AUTOU, METEBH EKEIQEN TOU DIDASKEIN KAI KHRUSSEIN EN TAIS POLESIN
AUTWN. 

MATT. 20:19 KAI PARADWSOUSIN AUTON TOIS EQNESIN EIS TO EMPAIXAI KAI
MASTIGWSAI KAI STAURWSAI, KAI THi TRITHi hHMERAi EGERQHSETAI.
 
1COR. 11:22 MH GAR OIKIAS OUK ECETE EIS TO ESQIEIN KAI PINEIN; H THS
EKKLHSIAS TOU QEOU KATAFRONEITE, KAI KATAISCUNETE TOUS MH ECONTAS; TI EIPW
hUMIN; EPAINESW hUMAS; EN TOUTWi OUK EPAINW.

2KINGS 5:7 KAI EGENETO hWS ANEGNW BASILEUS ISRAHL TO BIBLION DIERRHXEN TA
hIMATIA AUTOU KAI EIPEN MH QEOS EGW TOU QANATWSAI KAI ZWOPOIHSAI

1CHR. 26:29 TWi ISSARI CWNENIA KAI hUIOI AUTOU THS ERGASIAS THS EXW EPI TON
ISRAHL TOU GRAMMATEUEIN KAI DIAKRINEIN

--  
Clayton Stirling Bartholomew
Three Tree Point
P.O. Box 255 Seahurst WA 98062





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