revelation 3:17
c stirling bartholomew
cc.constantine at worldnet.att.net
Fri Jun 28 14:45:07 EDT 2002
Josh Kidwell wrote:
> Concerning Revelation 3:17: hOTI LEGEIS hOTI PLOUSIOS EIMI KAI PEPLOUQHKA
> KAI OUDEN CREIAN ECW KAI OUK OIDAS hOTI SU EI hO TALAIPWROS KAI ELEEINOS KAI
> PTWCOS KAI TUFLOS KAI GUMNOS
>
> Is this a simple statement of the way the Laodiceans are or is it a question
> that the writer assumes has an affirmative answer: Don't you know you're
> wretched? Of course you do.
>
> My question centers around the use of OUK before OIDAS and its affect on the
> rest of the passage. This appears as a straight statement of fact in all of
> the translations I have read.
Josh,
OUK negates OIDA. hOTI introduces the content, which answers the question
what is (not) known. The content
SU EI hO TALAIPWROS KAI ELEEINOS KAI PTWCOS KAI TUFLOS KAI GUMNOS
functions like a single argument for OIDA.
Why is this translated as a statement and not a question?
Note the inclusion of TUFLOS in this list. TUFLOS makes more sense if OUK
OIDAS is taken as a statement.
Also note how OIDA & GINWSKW are used in Rev 2-3. OIDA TA ERGA SOU (with
variations) is part of a formula that introduces the body of each letter.
The letters also use OIDA & GINWSKW with the addressees as the agent of
knowing. There appears to be a suggestion of semantic interplay between the
author's introductory formula OIDA . . . and statements about what the
addressees know and do not know. For example:
REV. 2:23 . . . KAI GNWSONTAI PASAI hAI EKKLHSIAI hOTI EGW EIMI hO ERAUNWN
NEFROUS KAI KARDIAS, KAI DWSW hUMIN hEKASTWi KATA TA ERGA hUMWN.
REV. 3:3 . . . hHXW hWS KLEPTHS, KAI OU MH GNWiS POIAN hWRAN hHXW EPI SE.
REV. 3:9 . . . KAI GNWSIN hOTI EGW HGAPHSA SE.
REV. 3:17 . . . KAI OUK OIDAS hOTI SU EI hO TALAIPWROS KAI ELEEINOS KAI
PTWCOS KAI TUFLOS KAI GUMNOS,
This evidence needs to be studied to understand how OUK OIDAS (REV. 3:17)
fits into this text (Rev 2-3).
greetings,
Clay
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Clayton Stirling Bartholomew
Three Tree Point
P.O. Box 255 Seahurst WA 98062
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