Matt. 8:9 responses to commands

L. J. Swain larry.swain at WMICH.EDU
Tue Oct 15 00:33:11 EDT 2002


Just a quick question Carl: 
Might sequence of tenses also have a little something to do with #1 and
#3?

"Carl W. Conrad" wrote:
> 
> Forwarded for George Somsel <Polycarp66 at aol.com>
> Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 21:45:55 EDT
> 
> In a message dated 10/13/2002 9:09:38 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
> emory2oo2 at hotmail.com writes:
> 
> >KAI GAR EGW ANQRWPOS EIMI hUPO EXOUSIAN, EXWN hUP’Äô EMAUTON STRATIWTAS,
> >KAI LEGW TOUTWi, POREUQHTI, KAI POREUETAI, KAI ALLWi, ERCOU, KAI ERCETAI,
> >KAI Twi DOULWi MOU,POIHSON TOUTO,KAI POIEI.
> >
> >Can anyone give me the sense of these Imperatives and why the
> >responses are portrayed as they are?
> >
> >1. Why the Aorist Passive POREUQHTI answered with a Present Middle Ind.
> >POREUETAI,
> >
> >2. Present Middle ERCOU answered with a Present Middle ERCETAI,
> >
> >3. Aorist Active POIHSON answered with a Present Active POIEI?
> >
> 
> 1.
> I'm not sure that we can strictly speek of POREUQHTI as a passive.¬Ý It is
> a true deponent verb.¬Ý Robertson, p. 817 notes
> 
> "The so-called passive 'deponents,' verbs which had no active, formed the
> aorist with the passive form.¬Ý But they were not always intransitive.¬Ý
> Some of them were so, like POREUOMAI (Mt. 8:9), METAMELOMAI (Mt. 27:3),
> DUNAMAI (Mt. 17:16), but most of them are really transitive.¬Ý They
> probably represent a survival of the old active origin of the aorist
> passive forms."
> 
> In keeping with the aorist mood and its view of things as a puntiliar event
> (note that I said 'view' ,not that the event itself is puntiliar), we might
> translate it as "'Be gone!' -- and he goes".
> 
> 2.
> That the present middle ERXOU is followed by a present middle ERXETAI
> should not be particularly surprising.
> 
> 3.
> That the aorist active POIHSON is followed by the present active would seem
> to be similar to 1. above.¬Ý "'Get this done' -- and he does it."¬Ý The
> idea is that what he wants is the completed action.¬Ý What he gets is the
> execution of the process necessary to accomplish it.
> 
> gfsomsel
> 
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