ENESTERNISMENOI (Was: De-Inflection Software?)
Carl W. Conrad
cwconrad at artsci.wustl.edu
Sat Sep 21 15:42:52 EDT 2002
At 9:51 AM -0700 9/21/02, Richard A. Stauch wrote:
>Hi Carl, George, et alii,
>
>I thank you all for your replies, but I am afraid I did not make myself
>clear enough. Only one person actually got what I am after, and the two
>of us decided the beast does not exist.
>
>Thank you Carl for the URL to Perseus. It may annoy you a little, but I
>have that already, and much more, yet it does not answer my need at all.
>What you gave me is another string search tool. It does not lemmatize
>the word, or break out the various constituent parts. This is what I am
>looking for, not another pointer to lexicons and texts.
Sorry, I gave you the wrong place to start--and you perhaps know all about
this too already. I've just now logged into Perseus (and using Omni-Web I
can even read the Unicode Greek on my Mac) on the text of Aeschylus'
Agamemnon. I clicked on KOIMWMENOS in line 2 to open up a little pop-up
window, which tells me:
(1) the form is from KOIMAW, (2) that the verb means "to lull or hush to
sleep, put to sleep"; (3) a click on either Middle Liddell or LSJ will take
me to the entry in that lexicon; (4) it then tells me that KOIMWMENOS is
"pres part mid/pass masc nom sg contr"; (5)it also tells me the frequency
of this verb, KOIMAW in Aeschylus and in all Perseus Greek texts. Granted,
it doesn't break down KOIMWMENOS into KOIMA-O-MEN-OS and tell you that
KOIMA- is the root/stem, -O- is the thematic vowel, -MEN- the MP
participial infix, and -OS the nom. sg. masculine ending. But if this
doesn't carry one far enough, then one really doesn't know enough Greek for
that piece of software to be much use to one either. Incidentally, although
it's the older Westcott-Hort text, the GNT is on-line at the Perseus
web-site also, and one can click on any word in it and get the same parsing.
>George, and then Carl, remind me that I must learn Greek in order to
>read it, and I agree. I appreciate the need to "instantly recognize" the
>parts of words if I hope to ever be fully fluent, and I am moving in
>that direction. This is not what I am getting at, at all.
Well, I think I see what you're getting at, but I would nevertheless
continue to encourage you to move toward instant recognition of parts of
words.
--
Carl W. Conrad
Department of Classics, Washington University (Emeritus)
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cwconrad at artsci.wustl.edu OR cwconrad at ioa.com
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