[B-Greek] Rev. 1:10
Jason Hare
jason at hareplay.com
Wed Dec 3 05:21:44 EST 2003
Lira,
I've run this through my head a bit and no one has responded to the post, so
I just wanted to ask...
I guess I'm just curious as to what play this KATA KURIAKHN ZOHN ZWNTES has
on the verse in question (Revelation 1.10). I'm not sure what you meant by
your last line:
>As to the grammatical aspect, I'm not qualified to discuss it with you, but
I see no difference between KURIAKHN [hEMERAN] ZWNTES and KURIAKHN ZOHN
ZWNTES.
Really, I don't know that ZWNTES is part of the original question. The text
reads: EGENOMHN EN PNEUMATI EN THi KURIAKHi hHMERAi.... That's the extent of
the phrase. It says, "I came to be in the Spirit on the Lord's Day." I think
your quote from the Magnesian letter applies only in that it contrasts
Sabbath with "the Lord's Day," saying that the latter comes the day after
Sabbath. That is the tie. The KURIAKHN hHMERAN ZWNTES ("living the Lord's
Day") makes really no sense to me.
Was there something you meant in that phrase and in your failure to
compare/contrast Sabbath and the Lord's Day in the Magnesian letter?
Best regards,
Jason Hare
Student of Spanish and Philosophy
Missouri Southern State University - Joplin, MO
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From: "Lira" <rosangelalira at terra.com.br>
To: <b-greek at lists.ibiblio.org>
Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 1:59 AM
Subject: Re: [B-Greek] Rev. 1:10
Dear Gfsomel:
What happens is that the only Greek manuscript available of the epistle to
the Magnesians _ Codex Mediceus (which is older than the Latin manuscripts)
contains the whole phrase: KATA KURIAKEN ZOHN ZWNTES - please notice that
the word ZOHN is in the original text. Bauckham, in "Lord's Day", p. 228,
writes, "This passage has provoked textual debate, since the only Greek
manuscript extant reads kata kyriaken zoen zontes, which could be translated
'living according to the Lord's life.'" It is the Latin version which omits
the word for "life" and scholars in general have opted for the Latin text.
But the passage is debatable.
As to the context, please notice that the paragraph begins with the words
"For the divinest prophets lived according to Christ Jesus." So "living
according to the Lord's life" would be a closer parallel than "living
according to the Lord's day". What has been pointed out is that the author
is contrasting ways of life here, not contrasting the Sabbath and Sunday,
that is, that the Sabbath should be observed not in the way the legalist
Jews observe it, but as Jesus observed it.
Although the longer form of the epistle to the Magnesians is by almost
universal consent of scholars and critics pronounced the work of some
centuries after the time of Ignatius, it says:
"Let us therefore no longer keep the Sabbath after the Jewish manner, and
rejoice in days of idleness; for `he that does not work, let him not eat.'
For, say the [holy] oracles, `In the sweat of thy face shalt thou eat thy
bread.' But let every one of you keep the Sabbath after a spiritual manner,
rejoicing in meditation on the law, not in relaxation of the body, admiring
the workmanship of God, and not eating things prepared the day before, nor
using lukewarm drinks, and walking within a prescribed space, nor finding
delight in dancing and plaudits which have no sense in them. And after the
observance of the Sabbath, let every friend of Christ keep the Lord's day as
a festival, the resurrection day, the queen and chief of all the days [of
the week]. Looking forward to this, the prophet declared, `To the end, for
the eighth day,' on which our life both sprang up again, and the victory
over death was obtained in Christ," etc. Chapter ix.
As you know, the Sabbath and Sunday were kept by the Eastern Church side by
side until at least the fourth century.
As to the grammatical aspect, I'm not qualified to discuss it with you, but
I see no difference between KURIAKHN [hEMERAN] ZWNTES and KURIAKHN ZOHN
ZWNTES.
Rosangela.
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