[B-Greek] Mark 16:18 AROUSIN

Harry W. Jones hwjones2 at earthlink.net
Tue Feb 4 20:55:29 EST 2003


Hello Carlton and Iver,

I appreciate your help.

So then *handle*,  if I understand you both correctly,  would be a valid
gloss for AROUSIN.

Best Regards,
Harry Jones


In a message dated 2/4/2003 6:08:55 AM Eastern Standard Time,
cwconrad at artsci.wustl.edu writes:
 
> 
> Hello All,
> 
> My question concerns KAI EN TAIS CERSIN OFEIS AROUSIN.
> 
> I have noticed that some translations have AROUSIN translated as *handle*
> and I am wondering if that could an accurate gloss of this 
> word?
> 
> Any help would be appreciated.
> 
> Best Regards,
> Harry Jones
Harry, its the combination of AROUSIN and CERSIN that gives the meaning "to
handle." "to take up with the hands."
 
Carlton Winbery
Louisiana College
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> [Original Message]
> From: Iver Larsen <iver_larsen at sil.org>
> To: Biblical Greek <b-greek at lists.ibiblio.org>
> Date: 2/4/03 6:54:17 AM
> Subject: RE: [B-Greek] Mark 16:18 AROUSIN
>
> >
> > Forwarded for Harry Jones:
> >
> > From: "Harry  W. Jones" <hwjones2 at earthlink.net>
> > Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 02:17:57 -0800
> >
> >
> > Hello All,
> >
> > My question concerns KAI EN TAIS CERSIN OFEIS AROUSIN.
> >
> > I have noticed that some translations have AROUSIN translated as
*handle*
> > and I am wondering if that could an accurate gloss of this word?
> >
>
> According to my little English dictionary, handle has two senses:
> 1) feel with or move by the hands
> 2) to deal with or control
>
> I would think that sense 1 is OK for Mark 16:18, but sense 2 is
> questionable.
> If one understands "handle" here as a habitual controlling or handling, I
> would prefer to just use the more common gloss for AIRW, that is, "pick
up"
> as NIV has it. Based on the following context of drinking poison, it seems
> to me that the picking up of snakes is either unintentional as Paul
> experienced on Malta or at least not a normal or habitual event. Normally,
> if one had to move a snake, one would use a long stick, so I suppose the
> "hands" are meant to indicate an abnormal way of touching a snake. Both
RSV
> and TEV leave the hands implicit in "pick up", unless they have chosen to
> translate without the textually disputed words "KAI EN TAIS CERSIN". It is
> interesting to me how the TEV has moved the "if" forward to indicate the
> assumed unintentionality: "if they pick up snakes or drink any poison,
they
> will not be harmed".
> REB does the same: "if they handle snakes or drink any deadly poison, they
> will come to no harm." I think this is probably the intended meaning of
the
> future "they will pick up".
>
> Iver Larsen
>
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