[B-Greek] Fw: OFFLIST 2 Tim 1:3, 2 Tim 3:15 "apo"
Polycarp66 at aol.com
Polycarp66 at aol.com
Mon Feb 17 17:06:26 EST 2003
In a message dated 2/17/2003 4:02:35 PM Eastern Standard Time,
luke_slate at yahoo.com writes:
[GfS]
> >6. by those regarded to be something -- whoever they were -- encumbered me
> with nothing, but contrarily, seeing that I was entrusted with the gospel
> for the uncircumcised as Peter the circumcised . . .
>
> [Luke] What is the precise relationship between the translation of APO and
> the words of the text? For example, what is the function of APO in the
> sentence? In fact, how do you translate the whole clause?
>
> >6. APO DE TWN DOKOUNTWN EINAI TI, -- hOPOIOI POTE HSAN OUDEN MOI
> DIAFEREI; PROSWPON [hO] QEOS ANQRWPOU OU LAMBANEI -- EMOI GAR hOI DOKOUNTES
> OUDEN PROSANEQENTO,
>
> [Luke]: In your reading it seems that Paul is appealing to the good
> opinion, or rather depth of information, to establish that these were the
> ones who's opinion mattered. It seems that the text has Paul discounting
> their status (their esteem for having once been disciples of the historical
> man Jesus) as being immaterial.
>
> But assuming that he is saying that the esteemed ones "encumbered me with
> nothing" (which does not appear accurate) - doesn't that make Paul
> "independent of" them?
>
APO DE TWN DOKOUNTWN EINAI TI = "by those regarded to be something". If you
read the sentence omiting the parenthetical material set off by "[[" and
"]]", you get " But not even Titus who was with me, being a Greek, was
compelled to be circumcised . . . by those regarded to be something".
No, this does not make Paul independent of them. It indicates that he has
their sanction.
gfsomsel
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