[B-Greek] word meaning
Eric S. Weiss
eweiss at gte.net
Fri May 23 12:49:39 EDT 2003
In my reply, I inadvertantly reversed the meanings of the objective and
subjective genitive. It should read:
> Dan Wallace gives, I believe, 33 uses, the subjective (Christ's own
faith/faithfulness) and objective (faith in Christ) genitives being only
two of these many.
Also, a phrase I repeat ad nauseum(!) to my Greek students: "A word
means what the author intended it to mean in the context in which he
used it."
Eric S. Weiss wrote:
> With all due respect to your friend, he does NOT "interpret the NT
> Greek very literally." He interprets the NT Greek very ignorantly --
> ignorantly with respect to Greek, and ignorantly with respect to what
> language is and how language works.
>
> Yes, Koine Greek has idioms. If you can find a copy of Goodrick's DO
> IT YOURSELF HEBREW AND GREEK, read the chapter (I think it's chapter
> 22) on Idioms. You will either laugh at Goodrick's dry humor in this
> passage or cry when you suddenly realize that language is SO IDIOMATIC
> that you realize that it will take years of reading the Bible in its
> original language to be sure that one is not accidentally "literally"
> understanding or translating idiomatic speech, and that recourse to
> learned and scholarly commentaries and grammars/grammarians is
> something one should always check oneself with before making claims of
> what the Greek or Hebrew "REALLY says."
>
> As far as "of the faith of Christ," you need to learn about how the
> genitive case functions in Greek. Dan Wallace gives, I believe, 33
> uses, the objective (Christ's own faith/faithfulness) and subjective
> (faith in Christ) genitives being only two of these many. This phrase
> raises multiple issues: what kind of genitive is it? is PISTIS to be
> translated as "faith" or as "faithfulness"? etc. There is MUCH MUCH
> MUCH written about this. Check your local seminary and look in the
> commentaries on Galatians and the periodicals.
>
> Good luck!
>
>
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Eric S. Weiss
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S.D.G.
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