[B-Greek] Phil 2:11
Dmitriy Reznik
reznik1 at juno.com
Sun Oct 19 14:55:56 EDT 2003
Dear Noel,
Thank you for your input. From you, I got that good idea to make a simple
search on using the phrase "Lord Jesus" in the NT. I really found a huge
number of places where that phrase is used. Thus now I know that the
phrase "Lord Jesus" is used as often as "Jesus Christ", or "Lord Jesus
Christ", or "Our Lord Jesus Christ".
Plus, I think that the main message proclaimed by the earliest church was
not "Jesus is Lord", but "Jesus is the Messiah". That was important not
only for the Jews, but even the Gentiles coming to faith were adapting
the systems of Jewish beliefs. Paul in Athens proclaimed not "a new god
Jesus", but a Man chosen by G-d who was going to judge the universe,
which means the Messiah.
Still some insisted that because the word KURIOS is on the 1st place it
must be a predicate. And this is my question that remains: is this really
so? If yes, I would have to admit that my variant of translation is
wrong. If not, I will be inclined to accept it. Can anybody refer me to
any grammar article or something that can prove or disprove that the
predicate MUST possess the 1st place?
Sincerely,
Dmitriy Reznik
On Sat, 18 Oct 2003 13:50:55 +0100 "Noel Fitzpatrick"
<njfitzpatrick at eircom.net> writes:
> Dear Dmitriy
>
> I read with great interest your posting in the B-Greek list and the
>
> replies. Did you think your query was answered satisfactorily?
>
> I do not think so. I agree with the many of the comments made but I
>
> think a clear answer to your question "is it possible to translate
> it (Phil
> 2:11) as "...Lord Jesus is the Messiah...?" is YES.
>
> I did a search and found examples for KURIOS IHSOUS as Lord
> Jesus. The article is not relevant to the discussion. An example
> is
> Rom 14:14. Thus it is possible to translate KURIOS IHSOUS
> CRISTOS as Lord Jesus is the Messiah.
>
> Regards,
>
> Noel.
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