[B-Greek] PROS FQONON James4:5

Carl W. Conrad cwconrad at artsci.wustl.edu
Mon Sep 15 15:46:17 EDT 2003


At 8:32 AM -0400 9/15/03, Rbsads at aol.com wrote:
>PROS FQONON EPIPOQEI TO PNEUMA hO KATWiKISEN EN hHMIN
>
>How is it best to understand the phrase PROS FQONON?
>
>Several translation seems to offer different readings, either taking the
>phrase literally as a preposition or taking the phrase periphrastically as an
>adverb.
>
>"Longs toward envy." KJV "lusteth to envy"
>
>"Enviously longs."
>
>The RSV even breaks with most translations by treating TO PHEUMA as the
>object of EPIPOQEI rather than as its subject.
>
>If PROS FQONON is best considered as an adverb, what might be the object of
>EPIPOQEI?
>
>And, given the resolution of PROS FQONON, how might the whole of verse 5 be
>understood in relation to verse 6 which completes the sentence.
>
>The NEB renders the two verses as "(5) Or do you suppose that Scripture has
>no meaning when it says that the spirit which God implanted in man turns
>towards envious desires? (6) And yet the grace he gives is stronger."
>
>This rendering seems to require that the referenced indwelling spirit is not
>the Holy Spirit, but rather something spiritual and good but less the Holy
>Spirit?

A tough nut to crack; I've attempted to comment on this before, but I have
no real confidence in any answer to the questions involved in this text.
You might, for what it's worth consult the list archives; I've found the
following:

David J. Rising		10:36 AM 11/8/96	Questions from James 4:5
Randall McRoberts	7:56 AM 1/22/97		James 4:5
Francisco Orozco	1:29 PM 4/25/98		Re: How to translate Jam 4.5
David L. Moore		9:22 PM 4/25/98		Re: How to translate Jam 4.5
Dmitriy Reznik		6:13 PM 6/13/99		The meaning of FQONOS in Ja 4:5
Steven Cox		11:32 PM 7/19/99	Re: James 4:5
N & RJ Hanscamp		12:37 AM 7/20/99	Re: James 4:5
Steven Cox		4:27 AM 7/20/99		Re: James 4:5
Jonathan Ryder		7:09 AM 7/20/99		Re: James 4:5
Ron Rhoades		4:14 PM 7/20/99		Re: James 4:5
Ben Crick		7:02 PM 7/20/99		Re: James 4:5
Harold R. Holmyard III	2:27 PM 5/24/00		FQONOS in Jas 4:5
clayton bartholomew	4:22 PM 5/24/00		Re: FQONOS in Jas 4:5
Carl W. Conrad		10:21 AM 5/25/00	Re: FQONOS in Jas 4:5
Robert_Pirewicz		6:36 AM 1/10/01		[b-greek] PROS FQONON
myron kauk		1:07 PM 1/10/01		[b-greek] Re: PROS FQONON
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Carl W. Conrad
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