[B-Greek] Acts 22,17;18 follow up

Carl W. Conrad cwconrad at artsci.wustl.edu
Fri Apr 9 08:06:36 EDT 2004


As I said, the infinitive phrase (which in English we would formulate as a
noun clause) is the subject of EGENETO MOI. "Myself to get in a trance and
to see him
happened to me." You must realize that this is a complex sentence with
clauses subordinated to each other, but syntactically we have to say that
the predicate of the main clause is EGENETO MOI and the subject is GENESQAI
... KAI IDEIN. Perhaps a rough diagrammatic representation might help:


	GENESQAI ME
		EN EKSTASEI

	   KAI							EGENETO
								    MOI


	IDEIN       AUTON LEGONTA MOI     SPEUSON
					  KAI
					  EXELQE
					     EN TACEI
					     EX IEROUSALHM

I haven't endeavored to represent the dative participial phrases (they
attach to the MOI of GENESQAI MOI) or the genitive absolute (it attaches to
GENESQAI KAI IDEIN by indicating the circumstances of the occurrence of the
trance-vision.

At 4:55 AM -0700 4/9/04, Eddie Mishoe wrote:
>I am not understanding the idea here then of the
>"subject" of the main clause. It appears that the
>subject in both clauses is "I" (Paul). Could someone
>explain how there are two different subjects in these
>clauses?
>
>
>--- "Carl W. Conrad" <cwconrad at artsci.wustl.edu>
>wrote:
>> At 8:31 PM -0700 4/8/04, Eddie Mishoe wrote:
>> >EGENETO DE MOI hUPOSTREYANTI EIS IEROUSALHM KAI
>> >PROSEUCOMENOU MOU EN TWi hIERWi GENESQAI ME EN
>> >EKSTASEI, KAI IDEIN AUTON LEGONTA MOI, SPEUSON KAI
>> >EXELQE EN TACEI EX IEROUSALHM,
>> >
>> >PROSEUCOMENOU MOU is identified as a Genitive
>> Absolute
>> >because its subject is different from that of the
>> main
>> >clause. What is the subject of the main clause
>> here?
>>
>> The subject of the main clause (predicate EGENETO
>> MOI) is the compound
>> infinitive phrase--functioning like a substantive
>> clause--GENESQAI ME ...
>> KAI IDEIN ...): lit. "me to come to be in a trance
>> and to see ..." which in
>> standard English would become "that I came to be in
>> a trance and saw ..."
>>
>> Older Attic Greek would have put that genitive
>> absolute into another
>> participle in the dative thus: EGENETO DE MOI
>> hUPOYTREYANTI EIS IEEROUSALHM
>> KAI PROSEUCOMENWi EN TWi hIERWi GENESQAI ME EN
>> EKSTASEI KAI IDEIN ... ""And
>> it happened to me when I had returned to Jerusalem
>> and was praying in the
>> temple that I came to be in a trance and saw ..."
>> --
>>
>> Carl W. Conrad
>> Department of Classics, Washington University
>> (Emeritus)
>> 1989 Grindstaff Road/Burnsville, NC 28714/(828)
>> 675-4243
>> cwconrad at artsci.wustl.edu
>> WWW: http://www.ioa.com/~cwconrad/
>
>
>=====
>Eddie Mishoe
>Pastor
>
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Carl W. Conrad
Department of Classics, Washington University (Emeritus)
1989 Grindstaff Road/Burnsville, NC 28714/(828) 675-4243
cwconrad at artsci.wustl.edu
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