[B-Greek] Col. 1:13a causal pronoun FOLLOW Up
Carl W. Conrad
cwconrad at artsci.wustl.edu
Wed Apr 14 18:17:50 EDT 2004
At 2:57 PM -0700 4/14/04, Mitch Larramore wrote:
>Dr. Conrad (Cummings?)
>
>Are you saying that part of the analysis of the Greek
>RELATIVE clauses involves a determination of their
>grammatical (better, their semantic) relationship to
>the noun/clauses they modify?
Certainly; it may be a simple matter of an adjectival clarification of
which person a substantive in a main clause refers to: AR' EIDES SU TON
ANDRA hOS TAUTA EPOIHSEN? "Did you see the man WHO DID THIS?' Or it may be
in a conditional generalizing clause: hOS TIS AN TAUTA POIHSHi, ECQROS
EKEINOS ALHQWS TWi QEWi--"Anyone who does that is surely hostile to God",
etc. That is to say, a relative clause may take several forms within larger
syntactical structures.
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>--- "Carl W. Conrad" <cwconrad at artsci.wustl.edu>
>wrote:
>> At 7:37 PM +0000 4/14/04, <dhoxworth at charter.net>
>> wrote:
>> >><Mitch>
>> >> Then, can I take a relative (pronoun) clause
>> >> adverbially (causal)?
>> >
>> ><doug>
>> >i'm not sure exactly what you're asking but i'll
>> make an attempt.
>> >
>> >clauses can be relative, causal, comparative,
>> local, temporal, purpose,
>> >result, conditional, concessive, substantival, etc.
>> to name a few
>> >categories. a relative pronoun introduces a
>> relative clause. i believe
>> >relative clauses may be taken substantivally,
>> adjectivally, or
>> >adverbially. as to whether relative pronouns can be
>> used to introduce a
>> >causal clause i don't know. that would be a
>> question for carl conrad or
>> >someone else around these parts.
>>
>> eecummings here (aka cwc): Your text in question is
>> hOS ERRUSATO hHMAS EK
>> THS EXOUSIAS TOU SKOTOUS..., which is preceded by
>> META CARAS EUCARISTOUNTES
>> TWi PATRI TWi hIKANWSANTI hUMAS ...; TWi PATRI must
>> be the antecedent of
>> the hOS in 1:13; hOS is not in itself causal at all,
>> but an interpreter
>> might suppose that the clause hOS ERRUSATO hHMAS
>> somehow explains the
>> preceding "joyfully giving thanks to the father who
>> has enabled you, who
>> has rescued us from the power of darkness"--i.e. it
>> is assumed that the
>> "who has rescued us" implicitly means "inasmuch as
>> he has rescued us." But
>> the relative pronoun in and of itself has no
>> semantic causal force.
>> --
>>
>> Carl W. Conrad
>> Department of Classics, Washington University
>> (Emeritus)
>> 1989 Grindstaff Road/Burnsville, NC 28714/(828)
>> 675-4243
>> cwconrad at artsci.wustl.edu
>> WWW: http://www.ioa.com/~cwconrad/
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Carl W. Conrad
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