[B-Greek] EK PISTEWS
Arie Dirkzwager
dirkzwager at pandora.be
Thu Apr 22 17:09:39 EDT 2004
I agree with Harold.
I only read somewhere that Paul used some ironical humour here. Jews and
gentiles are both saved by faith, but if some people desire to be different,
they can get it: the Jews can get EK and the gentiles DIA.
It is not the only place where Paul uses the same kind of humour. Think of
the letter to the Colossians.
Dr. A. Dirkzwager
Hoeselt, Belgium
e-mail dirkzwager at pandora.be
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Van: "Harold R. Holmyard III" <hholmyard at ont.com>
Aan: <b-greek at lists.ibiblio.org>
Verzonden: donderdag 22 april 2004 19:33
Onderwerp: Re: [B-Greek] EK PISTEWS
Dear Jody,
>I'm looking for some guidance, particularly the
>translation and meaning of Paul's phrase EK PISTEWS.
>
>In Rom. 5:1 DIKAIWQENTES OUN EK PISTEWS should EK
>PISTEWS be translated 'by faith' 'through faith' 'from
>faith' 'because of faith' etc. What would you go for
>and why?
HH: "By faith" seems good, since "through' is
good for DIA. The UBS dictionary gives "from,"
"by", and "because" as possible with EK and the
genitive. BAGD treats "by" and "because of" as
more or less synonymous. The phrase EK PISTEWS
occurs in Rom 1:17; 3:26, 30; 4:16 (2 t.). The
use in 1:17 is helpful in that it quotes Hab 2:4,
which may favor an interpretation like "by.
>Also in Rom. 3:30 DIKAIWSEI PERITOMHN EK PISTEWS KAI
>AKROBUSTIAN DIA THS PISTEWS is there any difference in
>meaning intended between EK PISTEWS and DIA THS
>PISTEWS or do they mean roughly the same?
HH: I think they mean roughly the same thing.
Yours,
Harold Holmyard
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