[B-Greek] What was said in Luke?

Arie Dirkzwager dirkzwager at pandora.be
Fri Apr 30 14:31:55 EDT 2004


Not being a professor, but having written about EKCUNNOMENON I will try to
answer.

The Greek text says that this cup is (a symbol of) the new covenant in the
blood of Jesus and that the cup will be poured out.
The parallel texts in the gospels of Mat and Mk speak about the blood being
poured out.
Practically speaking it is the same phaenomenon.

But ....
CEW and verbs with preverbs and -CEW connected with hAIMA normally speak of
the shedding of blood (Bauer s.v. EKCEW 1). And so hUPER hUMWN can easiliy
be connected with this thought: the blood of Jesus was shed for the good of
"you".

On the other hand there was another covenant with blood being poured out: Ex
24: 6-8. In the LXX  we find PROSECEEN (with -CEW !) in verse 6 and
KATESKEDASEN in verse 8.  So in my opinion EKCUNNOMENON *can* mean "being
sprinkled".
In this view the fact is being stressed that by the death of Jesus the new
covenant was inaugurated. And now there was no real libation of the blood of
animals like in Ex 24, but you could say that the blood of Jesus was libated
at the inauguration of the new covenant. That is of course metaphorical
language.

hUPER hUMWN (with the genitive!) cannot mean "(sprinkled) over you". But
"for the good of you" is possible in this view too. Cfr. Lev 1: 4 for this
idea at a real sacrifice.

Arie


Dr. A. Dirkzwager
Hoeselt, Belgium
e-mail dirkzwager at pandora.be

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Onderwerp: [B-Greek] What was said in Luke?


> My Friends, What was actually said in Luke 22:20, when he speaks of the
New Covenant? I personally think that Jesus took the CUP and said that it
REPRESENTS the New Covenant, because it reads like that. Another Professor
said that the basing ourselfs in the Greek Syntax it cannot be so, because
when it says "Poured out" it meant the CUP, and we know that the cup is not
going to be "poured out" so automaticlly is talking Metaphore. Can any
professor explain me that please? thanks a lot
>
> Danny Rdz.
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