[B-Greek] 1 Timothy 6,7

David Sugg davidsugg at comcast.net
Tue Aug 24 23:36:45 EDT 2004


Rogers & Rogers makes mention of 3 references for further information on
Jewish and Greek parallels. I don't have access to any of these, but I
thought I would point them out in case someone else has access:

J.N.D. Kelly. "A Commentary on the Pastoral Epistles." Black's New Testament
Commentaries. London: Adam and Charles Black, 1972.

H.L. Strack and P. Billerbeck. "Kommentar zum Neuen Testament aus Talmud und
Midrash." 6 vols. Munish: C.H. Beck, 1965. Vol 3, page 655.

Georg Strecker and Udo Schnelle. "Neuer Wettstein: Texte zum Neuen Testament
aus Griechentum und Hellenismus." Band II: Texte zur Briefliteratur und zur
Johannesapokalypse. Berlin: Walter de Gruyter, 1966. 2, i:944-948

What role does GAR have in modifying the interpretation of  hOTI ?
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kevin W. Woodruff" <cierpke at prodigy.net>
To: "Eddie Mishoe" <edmishoe at yahoo.com>; "B Greek"
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Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2004 9:10 PM
Subject: Re: [B-Greek] 1 Timothy 6,7


> Eddie:
>
>
> All commentators talk about the difficulty here
>
> I howard Marshall give the following possiblilites
>
> 1). Oti expresses cause
>
> 2). Oti is loosely used to mean "just as" or even
> "and"
>
> 3). There is an ellipsis with something like DHLON
> being understood
>
> 4)Oti is resumptive
>
> 5) Oti is an Oti recitativum used like our quotation
> marks to introduce a proverbial saying
>
> 6). Oti is not a conjuntion but the neuter form of
> hOSTIS and therefore translated as "wherefore"
>
> 7). oti can seem to sometimes mean "so that"
>
> 8). The oti clause may give the basis of knowledge for
> affirming the other clause like in Luke 7:47
>
> 9). This view says that the second line does not give
> the reason why the content of the first line is known,
> but rather the reaosn why the author puts it
> forward... We must abandon our possessions at death
> and a reason for this fact is our birth without any
> possession: We have no right to posessions because we
> are born without them
>
>
> Kevin
>
>
>
> --- Eddie Mishoe <edmishoe at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > OUDEN GAR EISHNEGKAMEN EIS TON KOSMON, hOTI OUDE
> > EXENEGKEIN TI DUNAMEQA
> >
> > NET Bible note:
> > The Greek conjunction hOTI usually means "because,"
> > but here it takes the sense "so that" (see BDAG 732
> > s.v. 5.c). This unusual sense led to textual
> > variation
> > ("it is clear that" or "it is true that"), as
> > scribes
> > attempted to correct what appeared to be an error.
> > The
> > simple conjunction is preferred on both internal and
> > external grounds.
> >
> > I have not come across a satisfactory explanation
> > for
> > this hOTI, including this NET note. Is there another
> > meaning to hOTI that others have run across in their
> > readings that would give a better sense to the
> > relationship of these two clauses? (The second
> > clause
> > does not seem to me to follow logically from the
> > first. Both may be true, but I don't see one lending
> > support to the other.)
> >
> >
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