[B-Greek] Romans 16:7

Patrick Narkinsky patrick at narkinsky.com
Tue Dec 21 11:46:11 EST 2004


There is another issue here that I would be interested in hearing 
folks' opinions on. Namely, how do we interpret the phrase "hOITINES 
EISIN EPISHMOI EN TOIS APOSTOLOIS"?  There's significant diversity in 
how this is translated among translations across ideological lines.  
For example:

ESV - "They are well known *TO* the apostles,* and they were in Christ 
before me."

NRSV - "they are prominent *AMONG* the apostles, and they were in 
Christ before I was." [Emphasis mine in both cases.]

It seems that the majority of translations are sticking to translating 
EN as "among", but that newer conservative translations are choosing to 
translate it as "to".  Personally, I think that this is a far more 
significant question that the gender of IOUNIAN.

FWIW, I tend to favor the NRSV's translation because it seems to me to 
fall much more in the usual sense of "EN" than the ESV's.  However, I 
would be very interested in hearing comment from others on this list.

Patrick


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Patrick Narkinsky - patrick at narkinsky.com

"Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but not their own facts."  
- Senator Daniel Patrick Moynihan
On Dec 21, 2004, at 11:30 AM, Harold R. Holmyard III wrote:

> HH: The assumption you're making is that there has been a name change. 
> But this issue is not about a name change, is it, but about whether 
> IOUNIAN is a masculine or feminine name. There is a name change 
> variant in Rom 16:7, that of IOULIAN, a feminine name, but are you 
> referring to it? The addition of circumflex accent to IOUNIAN may 
> indicate what had previously been understood; it is not necessarily a 
> change at all. The name IOUNIAN can be a feminine or a masculine name, 
> depending on the accenting.




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