[B-Greek] SOI in Mark 2:18

Polycarp66 at aol.com Polycarp66 at aol.com
Mon Feb 9 13:00:06 EST 2004


In a message dated 2/9/2004 12:45:58 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
Clwinbery at aol.com writes:
It is always with fear and trepidation that I question Carl Conrad, but in 
A.T. Robertson, p. 541, there is the listing of what is called the "dative of 
possession." He gives several egs. that must be dative and they indicate the 
relationship of antecedent to a noun that is generally but not purely possession.
Two interesting egs. are Acts 8:21 OUK ESTIN SOI MERIS, lit. "there is no 
part for you" or "you have no part in this matter."
I would quickly note that there is no article here to put SOI in an 
attributive relationship with MERIS and it could not agree with it like an adjective 
would. I must be the the pronoun but it does tell something about the noun. 

Another interesting eg. is Matt. 16:22. OU MH ESTAI SOI TOUTO, lit. "This 
will never be your thing." of "This will never happen to you." Again the article 
is not there but is that decissive since there are many places in the NT where 
the dative with and without a preposision are between the article and the 
noun serving to modify the noun.

This is the reason that Jim Brooks and I chose this very example (hO AUTOS 
TUPOS) as an example of Robertson's possessive dative, which seems in some of 
his examples to do a little more than show possession.
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But could these not be just as easily accounted for as a dative of respect?  
"This will never happen -- with respect to you"; "there is no part - with 
respect to you"?  It seems that a possesive usage would be stretching it a bit.

gfsomsel



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