[B-Greek] 1 Thess 4:15 hHMEIS + substantive ptcs.

Carl W. Conrad cwconrad at artsci.wustl.edu
Tue Jan 6 10:07:48 EST 2004


As Moon's message was garbled in the HTML version that came to me for
moderation, I'm forwarding this version for him with what I hope is an
appropriate subject-header. cwc

Forwarded for: moon at mail.sogang.ac.kr
To: b-greek at lists.ibiblio.org
Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2004 23:18:43 +0900

Hi, I finally found some time and energy to think about this problem.

1 Thess 4:15 For we tell you this by the word of the Lord,19 that we who
are alive, who are left until the coming of the Lord, will surely not go
ahead of those who have fallen asleep.

hOTI  hHMEIS hOI ZWNTES  hOI PERILEIPOMENOI EIS THN PAROUSIAN TOU KYRIOU
OU MH FQASWMEN TOUS KOIMHQENTAS.


Some  commentaries take  "we who are alive, who are left until the coming
of the Lord", to  mean  the same as "those who are alive, who are left
until the coming of the Lord".

Is it allowed from the linguistic point of view?  When Paul said hHMEIS,
he must have had in mind his audience and himself. When he added hOI ZWNTES
hOI PERILEIPONEMOI EIS
THN PAROUSIAN TOU KYRIOU,  he reduced the scope of "we" further. But I am
puzzled how  Paul's langauge can be further relaxed to mean "any of us
Christians who
are alive until the coming of the Lord"?

Sincerely
Moon

Moon R. Jung
Associate Professor
Dept of Media Technology
Graduate School of Media Comm
Sogang Univ, Seoul, Korea




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