[B-Greek] Coat of what?

Bart Torbert Bart.Torbert at ihsenergy.com
Tue Jan 13 11:38:44 EST 2004






I guess my use of the word strictest may be confusing.  I was looking for
some indication of how the word is most commonly translated not only in the
BIble but other sources.   A word can have a nominal meaning, then there is
how it is used in slang, allusion, poetically etc.  I was searching for the
normative sense.

Bart
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At 15:19 13/01/2004, Bart Torbert wrote:

>In Genesis 37:3 in the King James we get the notion that Joseph was given
a
>"coat of mnay colors".  But other translations give all sorts of other
>readings.

Not surprising, given that the phrase  _kutonet pas_    in the MT is
described (in a foonote to the JPS translation) as " Hebrew uncertain ",
and that Swanson, J. (1997). Dictionary of Biblical Languages with Semantic
Domains : Hebrew (Old Testament) states:

 >> special tunic, i.e., long robe with long sleeves, with a special focus
that this garment is not "work clothing" (Ge 37:3, 23b, 32a; 2Sa 13:18,
19+), note: good argument can be given that tunic was special because it
was a richly ornamented robe <<::


>How is this verse rendered in the LXX and what is the strictest sense of
>the phrasing.

From:
Lust, J., Eynikel, E., & Hauspie, K. (2003). A Greek-English Lexicon of the
Septuagint : Revised Edition. Deutsche Bibelgesellschaft: Stuttgart

POIKILOS -H -ON  adj.
colourful, multicoloured, variegated 1 Chr 29,2; spotted Gn 30,37; spotted,
speckled (of sheep) Gn 30,39; piebald (of a horse) Zech 1,8; wrought in
various colours, embroidered, beautiful (of clothes) Gn 37,3; manifold,
various 3 Mc 1,21

And given that this lexicon lists CITWN as: Semit. loanword (Hebr.
_kutonet_  ); tunic, shirt (garment worn next to the skin by women) I don't
think the LXX is going to tell you any more.


But in any case, I would question your quest for "strictest" -- perhaps you
would care to spell out what you mean by this. when translating from one
language to another?


Maurice A. O'Sullivan  [ Bray, Ireland ]
mauros at iol.ie


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