[B-Greek] Pronunciation questions
Arie Dirkzwager
dirkzwager at pandora.be
Fri Jan 23 14:10:27 EST 2004
My dinner was excellent. Now I can write the second part of my message.
The translitteration I meant does not give the text of the Apostolic
Confession but that of the Nicaean Confession.
I give here the text in "Latin Greek". Pronunciation matters are often
treated on this list. So I think the full text will be useful.
Pisteuo his ena Theon Patera panhocratoran pyetin uranu kae gis oraton kae
panton kae auraton Kae his ena Kyrion Ihm Xpm tonion tu theu ton monogenin
ton ec tu patros genitenta pro panton ton eonon fos ec fotos theon alithin
ec theu alithinu genithenta upyithenta omoysion tu patri diutapanta
egenonton ton di himas tus antrophus kae dia tin himeteran soterian
kateltonta ec ton uranon ke sarcotenta ecpneuma tos agiu kae Marias tis par
tenu kae inantropisanta staurotentha de yper imon epi pontio pilatu kae
panthonta kae tapenta kae anastenta titriti himera kata tas graphas kae
anelthonta his tus uranus kae katezomeno en dexia tu patros kae palin
ercomenon meta doxis crine zontas ke necrus utis basilias ucestin thelos kae
histo pneuma to agion ton kyrion kae zoopyon ton ec tu patros emporegomenon
ton syn patris kae yion synpros kynumenon kae syn doxazomen tolalesas dia
ton prophiton his mian agian catholicin kae apostolicin eclesian omologo en
baptisma his apesin amartion prosdogo anastas sin necron kae zoin tumellos
tos aeonas Amin.
I will give my readers the opportunity to experience the joy of finding the
solution of this linguistic puzzle:
- what was the Greek text in normal Greek letters? You will find "mistakes"
in the spelling and in matters of grammar.
- (and more important) what are the implications of anomalities for the
pronunciation of the Greek language?
The source is H. Lietzmann, Symbole der alten Kirche (Kleine Texte 17/18),
Berlin 1968. I wrote myself a little article about it in the Dutch language
("Latijns Grieks") in the periodical Hermeneus 48 (1976), p. 125 ff.
Arie
Dr. A. Dirkzwager
Hoeselt, Belgium
e-mail dirkzwager at pandora.be
----- Oorspronkelijk bericht -----
Van: "Arie Dirkzwager" <dirkzwager at pandora.be>
Aan: "Mitch Larramore" <mitchlarramore at yahoo.com>; "B Greek"
<b-greek at lists.ibiblio.org>
Verzonden: vrijdag 23 januari 2004 18:08
Onderwerp: Re: [B-Greek] Pronunciation questions
> In matters of pronunciation it is safe to look for translitterations of
> Greek words in other languages. It is unlikely that if in Greek PNEUMA is
> noted with PN and in a Latin translitteration too, the pronunciation in
both
> languages would have lost P or N. There exists a complete translitteration
> of the Greek text of the "Apostolic Confession" for Latin readers. I will
> give the reference later.
>
> Then there are of course remarks about pronunciation in the works of Greek
> grammarians, rhetorical writers and incidentally others (like e.g.
Lucianus
> in DIKH SUMFWNWN TOU SIGMA PROS TO TAU hUPO TOIS hEPTA FWNHESIN).
>
>
> Dr. A. Dirkzwager
> Hoeselt, Belgium
> e-mail dirkzwager at pandora.be
>
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