[B-Greek] Re: some linguistic questions on Jn 7:8

Jeffrey B. Gibson jgibson000 at comcast.net
Tue Jan 27 13:47:52 EST 2004



Wieland Willker wrote:

> I don't think that there are any grammatical subtleties involved,
> because already Porphyry the philosopher (3rd CE) notes that with the
> OUK we would have a lying Jesus.

Is that what he actually says?

> Context requires that he did not want to go (thus there is no real
> difference here between OUK and OUPW). I think (with B. Weiss) that
> apparently Jesus changed his mind due to a hint of God or what ever. We
> will never know.
>

Have you considered the remarks of Epiphanius (and Ray Brown) on the double
meaning of anabainw here?

mesazoushs gar ths heorths hlqe fhsi "kai anebh eis  Ierosoluma", "kai
elegon: oux outos estin on ezhoun piasai; kai idou en parrhsi lalei:
mh ara emaqon oi iereis oi outos estin ho  Xristos; alla oidamen outos
poqen esti". musthriwdws gar kai pneumatikws autou dialegomenou tois
autou adelfois ouk hdeisan ti elegen. elege gar autois mh anabainein
eis ton ouranon en th eorth ekeinh mhde eis ton stauron, tou teleiwsai
tews thn oikonomian tou paqous autou kai ths swthrias to musthrion kai
ek nekrwn anasthnai kai eis ton ouranon anabhnai: aina eplhrou panta
en tv idia autou ecousia.

Yours,

Jeffrey

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