[B-Greek] Rev 13:18

George F. Somsel gfsomsel at juno.com
Tue Jul 6 19:59:39 EDT 2004


On Tue, 6 Jul 2004 18:45:02 -0500 "Daniel Gleason"
<info at revelationjesuschrist.com> writes:
> Arie Dirkzwager wrote: It is possible that I missed a message or 
> deleted it
> too soon. But I did not find the explanation that ARIQMOS is 
> anarthrous here
> because normally the predicate does not have the article. So we can
> translate "It is a number" and "It is the number". The second 
> translation
> seems the right one, because the word number had been mentioned 
> before.
> 
> The word number is mentioned three times in this verse. The first 
> and third
> time with the definite article, the second time without. I disagree 
> that the
> second instance should be translated as "it is the number" and this 
> is my
> reasoning:
> 
> First, the verse has to be seen as a riddle. I think we can all 
> agree on
> that. The word beast is used as a pejorative label for the man in 
> question.
> The beast has no name. The word beast is simply an insult word. It's 
> like
> someone calling Hitler a dog. The author gives us the number 666 at 
> the end
> of the riddle but he clearly says in the middle of the verse that 
> this
> number is "a-number of-a-man." I interpret this to mean that the 
> number 666
> is part of the man's number. Therefore, his number must be greater 
> than 666.
> Remember, the riddle says the man's number has to be counted 
> (calculated).
> In my earlier post I said this was a tricky verse. There is a lot of 
> word
> play going on here. I just don't see how people can read this verse 
> and not
> even consider that the man's number is not 666. People have been 
> beating
> this dead horse for over 1900 years now. It's like looking for WMD 
> in Iraq.
> Open your minds and start looking at some alternate theories.
> 
> Now lets look at the first clause "Here is the Wisdom." What does 
> that mean?
> Folks, I'm going to make an educated guess here. It is my contention 
> that
> "Here" means verse 13:18. It is also my contention that "the wisdom" 
> means
> "the number of the man" ... the thing that needs to be counted.
> 
> Here is my suggestion. Convert the Greek letters of the verse to 
> numbers and
> start counting. Come on, anyone that passed 3rd grade can do this. 
> If you
> start seeking you just might find an answer that pops out at you.
> 
> Daniel Gleason
> 
__________

Surely you jest.  Verse numbers !!!  I would remind you that the
versification was only done much later.

george
gfsomsel



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