[B-Greek] PEIRAZOMENOUS

Carl W. Conrad cwconrad at artsci.wustl.edu
Sat Jun 19 10:23:36 EDT 2004


I see nobody's yet responded to this which came in yesterday (i.e. when it
was 6/19 in New Zealand).

At 7:12 AM +1200 6/19/04, Eddie Van Gent wrote:
>Greetings,
>
>I am attempting to extract the meaning of the continuous passive participle
>and surrounding verb forms packed into Hebrews 2:18.

First a slight correction of the transliteration: we use G for Gamma and
mark the iota subscript with a small following Iota
>
>EN  hWi  GAR  PEPONQEN  AUTOS  PEIRASQEIS
>              perfect 3s       ptc aor pass nms
>for in that he has Himself suffered being tempted

and PEIRAZOMENOUS should be PEIRAZOMENOIS

>DUNATAI          TOIS   PEIRAZOMENOIS    BOHQHSAI
>pres/continuous  ptc continuous pass     aor inf
>
>He is able to come to the aid of the ones undergoing temptation
>
>I currently see that PEIRAZOMENOIS expresses something that takes place
>continuously

Well, it is substantival; I'd even say that there's an implicit conditional
construction here, equivalent to: EAN TIS PEIRAZHTAI, AUTOS PEIRASQEIS
DUNATAI AUTWi BOHQHSAI ("if ever anyone is tempted, he himself, since he
was tempted, can come to the aid of that person.")

>BOHQHSAI being aorist focuses on the aspect of aid

which is to say it's perfective and indicates "render effective help"

>PEPONQEN that the experience of suffering has not been forgotten

yes, or that it continues to affect his empathy and sympathy (cf. Ex 23:9
NET "And you must not oppress a resident foreigner, for you in the land of
Egypt" By citing this I only mean to suggest the parallel of experience
that bears upon behavioral tendencies.)

>PEIRASQEIS- I am uncertain of how the aorist aspect is related to the time
>of PEPONTHEN

I'd sooner say that PEIRASQEIS governs DUNATAI: "he is able ... because he
has been tempted"

>DUNATAI - I am uncertain what the present tense modifies.

I'd assume that it relative to the time of the readers/audience addressed.
-- 

Carl W. Conrad
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