[B-Greek] SPOUDAZW and ORQOTOMEW IN 2 TIM 2:15

Arie Dirkzwager dirkzwager at pandora.be
Mon Jun 21 13:43:15 EDT 2004


When I teached NT exegesis in the Evangelical Theological Faculty of
Heverlee (Belgium) I had one of my students make a word study about
ORQOTOMEW. I do not know if I can find his work after 25 years, but I
remember he found a connection with the Hebrew j-sh-r (in an OT quotation in
the NT ??) which has also a strong moral meaning.
So he interpreted ORQOTOMEW as "make a right way (like the Roman roads, he
added) and do not make any deviations to the right or to the left - in
direction and morally".

[I do not think that "to cut the Word in order to get dispensations" is
*sectarian*. I consider it only as definitely not right for many reasons,
not to discuss here.]

Arie


Dr. A. Dirkzwager
Hoeselt, Belgium
e-mail dirkzwager at pandora.be

----- Oorspronkelijk bericht -----
Van: "Carl W. Conrad" <cwconrad at artsci.wustl.edu>
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CC: "thomas roth" <twroth at worldnet.att.net>
Verzonden: maandag 21 juni 2004 19:24
Onderwerp: [B-Greek] SPOUDAZW and ORQOTOMEW IN 2 TIM 2:15


> Forwarded for: "thomas roth" <twroth at worldnet.att.net>
> To: <b-greek at lists.ibiblio.org>
> Subject: SPOUDAZW and ORQOTOMEW
> Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2004 12:14:55 -0400
>
> [Co-chair's note: while this has been posed as a question involving both
> translation and exegesis, I think it might be most appropriate to comment
> on the proper understanding of the Greek verbs involved and to ignore
> sectarian doctrinal aspects of the question.]
>
> Sirs,
> I have a question regarding the words SPOUDAZW and ORQOTOMEW as they occur
> in 2 Tim 2:15.
> Most of the SPOUDAZW shows up it is translated to "do diligence" or
> "endeavor". However for some reason in this passage the King James
> translators decided to translate it as "study", and it is the only time
> they did so of its 11 occurrences.
> Is there a reason for this, and how is one to know that in 1611 the word
> "study" really meant to "give (or do) diligence"?
> Granted, in the revised editions the word has been changed from "study" to
> other words such as "be diligent" or "give diligence".
> Similarly, at the end of this verse, the word ORQOTOMEW has been
> translated, 4 centuries ago, to mean "rightly divide"; this too has been
> revised in later editions.
> The "problem" with "study" and "rightly divide" stems from the fact that
> certain church groups, specifically Scofield
>
(<http://www.biblebelievers.com/scofield/>www.biblebelievers.com/scofield/)
and
> others  hang a great deal of their teaching on this verse, possibly one of
> the most often quoted verses in the Bible after John 3:16. They believe
> that "study" means just that, and that "rightly divide" means that certain
> parts of the Bible are meant for certain groups of people in certain time
> periods, and we must literally divide it up with respect to those implied
> divisions; see <http://www.rightdivision.com>www.rightdivision.com
> Has this topic already been handled by your group? If so, please direct me
> to that archived area. If not, how will I get an response to this
question?
> I'm not familiar with your organization and the format for posing
questions.
> Thank you for any assistance in this matter. I realize this is not
> necessarily a question of the Greek words, and may involve interpretation
> of the Bible's meaning, which may not be your area of study.
>
> Sincerely,
> Tom Roth
> Dayton OH
> "....Glory in tribulations also:
> knowing that tribulations worketh patience,
> and patience experience
> and experience hope...."
> ----Romans 5:3-4
>
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