[B-Greek] Rev. 11:18

Polycarp66 at aol.com Polycarp66 at aol.com
Tue Mar 9 18:41:10 EST 2004


In a message dated 3/9/2004 5:23:05 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
cwconrad at artsci.wustl.edu forwards for Ron Snider:

...KAI HO KAIROS TON NEKRON KRINQHNAI DAI DOUNAI TON MISQON TOIJ DOULOIS
SOU TOIS PROFHTAIS KAI TOIS HAGIOIS KAI TOIS FOBOUMENOIS TO ONOMA SOU...



My question concerns how one takes the the datives that follow "To give
the reward to Your servants the propets and the saints and those who fear
your name"

It looks to me as if there are several translation options here and I
would like to know how many groups one thinks are involved in this reward.
_________

In part this is a theological question which depends on one's understanding 
of who comprises TON NEKRON.  Then there is the question of how one is to treat 
the conjunction KAI.  As you note, this would determine how many groups are 
counted.  In view of the preceeding stich 

KAI HLQEN hH ORGH SOU

it would seem that "the dead" does not simply refer to those enumerated in 
the section you cite.  If KAI is taken to be explicative, the remaining could be 
one group

servants = prophets = saints = reverencing your name (God fearers -- this is 
the term used in the Synagogue for those who had not completely converted to 
Judaism -- seekers?)

OR

it could be understood as 

servants
1. prophets
2. saints
3. God-fearers 

OR

servants
1. prophets
2. saints
summary: God fearers

It's all rather subjective since KAI = KAI unless there is some way to 
differentiate the usage.

gfsomsel



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