[B-Greek] Jn 1:1 HN (was) cf. ESTIN
Arie Dirkzwager
dirkzwager at pandora.be
Tue May 4 12:08:13 EDT 2004
Jeffrey,
You are right.
Arie
Everyone,
Ignore my note. Look up the matter in Bauer.
Arie
Dr.A. Dirkzwager
Hoeselt, Belgium
e-mail dirkzwager at pandora.be
----- Oorspronkelijk bericht -----
Van: "Jeffrey B. Gibson" <jgibson000 at comcast.net>
Aan: "Arie Dirkzwager" <dirkzwager at pandora.be>
CC: "Oun Kwon" <KwonO at upstate.edu>; <b-greek at lists.ibiblio.org>
Verzonden: dinsdag 4 mei 2004 18:00
Onderwerp: Re: [B-Greek] Jn 1:1 HN (was) cf. ESTIN
>
>
> Arie Dirkzwager wrote:
>
> > HN and ESTIN are the imperfect and the present of the same verb.
> > Already Aristotle saw that the verb EIMI can be used in connection with
> > several kinds of information:
> > about substance (OUSIA, e.g. man, animal),
> > quantity (POSON e.g. length),
> > quality (POION, e.g. white, intelligent),
> > relation (PROS TI, e.g. half, bigger),
> > place (POU, e.g. in the Lyceum),
> > time (POTE, e.g. yesterday),
> > position (KEISQAI, e.g. is sitting),
> > situation (ECEIN, e.g. is wearing shoes),
> > activity (POIEIN, e.g. is cutting),
> > being the object of something (PASCEIN, e.g. is being cut).
> >
> > I would add that EIMI without further information means to exist (a fact
> > that Aristotle knew very well too). But it remains the same verb.
> >
> > So looking from the possibilities of the Greek language you have many
> > possibilities if you read the verb EIMI. Finding the right possibility
is
> > therefore a matter of interpretation.
>
> While important to know, it cannot be assumed, given that Aristotle is
writing 3
> centuries before John, and in Attic rather than Koine, that his
possibilities
> are the ones that would have been known or current when the author of John
> wrote, can we? Wouldn't it be more sound methodologically to look at the
ways
> ESTIN/HN was used at a point in time closer to the end of the first
century CE
> rather than the middle or end of the 4th BCE?
>
> Jeffrey
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