[B-Greek] AGGELOS in 2 Cor 12:7

Michel Mix 12mix at xs4all.nl
Sun May 23 18:12:25 EDT 2004


The German translations have 'er' (he) also.

Robertson's Word Pictures comments:

"That it might depart from me (hINA APOSTHi AP EMOU). Second aorist active
(intransitive) subjunctive of APISTEMI in final clause, “that he stand off
from me for good.”"

Michel Mix



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2 Cor.12:7b-8
(7B)EDOQH MOI SKOLOY THi SARKI, AGGELOS SATANA, hINA ME KOLAFIZHi, hINA MH
hUPERAIRWMAI.(8)hUPER TOUTOU TRIS TON KURION PAREKALESA, hINA APOSTHi AP
EMOU.

In every English translation that I checked AGGELOS here is considered
something impersonal. It is commonly explained as a physical problem. In
verse 8, hINA APOSTHi AP EMOU is then translated as -that it might depart
from me-. The Dutch translations have -that he might depart from me-.

According to Trenchard the word AGGELOS occurs 175 times in the GNT. Using a
concordance, I checked out a selection of them (I don't have a Greek
concordance so I can't be exhaustive.)  I could not find another instance
where AGGELOS was translated as impersonal.
Would it be more likely that Paul was plagued by a person as a messenger of
Satan, rather than some sort of physical ailment?
Thank you.
Bert de Haan.
(Ps. I now receive the digest so please Cc any replies to me.)

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