[B-Greek] Nicander, BAPTW, and BAPTIZW

Arie Dirkzwager dirkzwager at pandora.be
Mon Nov 1 03:43:17 EST 2004


David,

I was right. The quotation can be found in Athenaeus, Deipnosophists IV
133D.
As the text cannot be found on internet, I presume, I will give you the
whole passage. It is interesting enough.
The quotation is in hexameters.

hOTI D' HSQION DIA ANASTOMWSIN KAI TAS DI' OXOUS KAI NAPOUS GOGGULIDAS SAFWS
PARISTHSI NIKANDROS EN DEUTERWi GEWRGIKWN LEGWN hOUTWS:
GOGGULIDOS DISSH GAR ID' EK RAFANOIO GENEQLH
MAKRH TE STIFRH TE FAEINETAI EN PRASIHiSI.
KAI TAS MEN Q' hAUHNON APOPLUNAS BOREHiSI,
PROSFILEAS CEIMWNI KAI OIKOUROISIN AERGOIS.
QERMOIS D' IKMANQEISAI ANAZWOUS' hUDATESSI.
TMHGE DE GOGGULIDOS RIZAS (KAI AKARFEA FLOION
HKA KAQHRAMENOS) LEPTOURGEAS, HELIWi DE
hAUHNAS EPI TUTQON hOTE 'N ZESTWi APOBAPTWN
hUDATI DRIMEIHi POLEAS EMBAPTISON hALMHi,
ALLOTE D' AU LEUKON GLEUKOS SUSTAMNISON OXEI
ISON ISWi, TAS D' ENTOS EPISTUYAS hALI KRUYAIS.
POLLAKI D' ASTAFIDAS PROCEAIS TRIPTHRI LEHNAS
SPERMATA T' ENDAKNONTA SINHPUOS. EIN hENI DE TRUX
OXEOS IKMAZOUSA KAI WMOTERHN EPI KORSHN
hWRION hALMAIHN AMUSAI KECRHOSI DAITHS.

Translation by Ch. B.  Gulick in volume 2 of the edition in the Loeb
Classical Library:

But they also ate as an appetizer turnips done in vinegar and mustard, as
Nicander plainly shows in the second book of
the Georgics; for he says:
"Of turnip and cabbage, in truth, two families appear in our gardens, long
and solid. The latter you wash and dry in the north wind, and they are
welcome in winter even to the idle stay-at-homes; for soaked in warm water
they come to life again. But the other, the turnip roots, you cut in thin
slices, gently cleaning away the undried outer skin, and after drying them
in the sun a little, either dip a quantity of them in boiling water and soak
them in strong brine; or again, put equal parts of white must and vinegar in
a jar together, then plunge the slices in it, having dried them off with
salt. Often, too, you may pound raisins and biting mustard-seeds with a
pestle and add it to them. When cream of tartar forms, and the top grows
more and more bitter, then 'tis time to draw off the pickle for those who
seek their dinner."

Arie

Dr. A. Dirkzwager
Hoeselt, Belgium
e-mail dirkzwager at pandora.be

----- Oorspronkelijk bericht -----
Van: "Arie Dirkzwager" <dirkzwager at pandora.be>
Aan: "David G. Jones" <dgjones40 at earthlink.net>; <b-greek at lists.ibiblio.org>
Verzonden: zaterdag 30 oktober 2004 9:03
Onderwerp: Re: [B-Greek] Nicander, BAPTW, and BAPTIZW


> David,
>
> If I read about cookery and an author that cannot be found, I presume that
> we have to do with a quotation in the Deipnosophistae by Athenaeus. I
looked
> into the first volume of the edition I possess and found that Athenaeus is
> quoting Nicander quite often.
> For the moment I do not have the time to look further into the text of
> Athenaeus, but perhaps you can find the text you are looking for now.
>
> Arie
>
>
> Dr. A. Dirkzwager
> Hoeselt, Belgium
> e-mail dirkzwager at pandora.be
>




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