[B-Greek] BDAG Sale Details
Harold R. Holmyard III
hholmyard at ont.com
Tue Nov 9 08:20:07 EST 2004
Dear Craig,
>I have 2nd edition BAGD. Is there much difference between 2nd and 3rd
>edition? I notice at a local Christian bookstore here 3rd edition is
>AU$199.95 and 2nd edition is AU$124.00 (and Dan Starcevich has 2nd for
>US$10!!!).
>
>Anyhow, is it worth going from 2nd to 3rd, or just wait for 4th ;-)
HH: Here are some unsolicited reviews from
Amazon.com that include both opinions.
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0226039331/104-5509718-2034327?v=glance
A Greek-English Lexicon of the New Testament and
Other Early Christian Literature
by Walter Bauer, Frederick William Danker (Editor)
Look inside this book
List Price: $125.00
Price: $125.00 Availability: Usually ships within 24 hours
Edition: Hardcover
See more product details
Special Shipping Information: This item is not
eligible for FREE Super Saver Shipping. This
product will incur a shipping surcharge of $1.40
in addition to the standard shipping fees.
Product Details
* Hardcover: 1188 pages ; Dimensions (in inches): 2.31 x 10.34 x 7.94
* Publisher: University of Chicago Press; 3rd edition (November 30, 2000)
* ISBN: 0226039331 | All Editions
Shipping: Due to this item's unusual size or
weight, it requires special handling and will
ship separately from other items in your order.
Read More.
------------------------------------------------------------------------
* 1 person recommended A Classification of
Semantic Case-Relations in the Pauline Epistles
in addition to A Greek-English Lexicon of the New
Testament and Other Early Christian Literature
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Editorial Reviews
Book Description
Described as an "invaluable reference work"
(Classical Philology) and "a tool indispensable
for the study of early Christian literature"
(Religious Studies Review) in its previous
edition, this new updated American edition of
Walter Bauer's Wörterbuch zu den Schriften des
Neuen Testaments builds on its predecessor's
staggering deposit of extraordinary erudition
relating to Greek literature from all periods.
Including entries for many more words, the new
edition also lists more than 25,000 additional
references to classical, intertestamental, Early
Christian, and modern literature.
In this edition, Frederick W. Danker's broad
knowledge of Greco-Roman literature, as well as
papyri and epigraphs, provides a more panoramic
view of the world of Jesus and the New Testament.
Danker has also introduced a more consistent mode
of reference citation, and has provided a
composite list of abbreviations to facilitate
easy access to this wealth of information.
Perhaps the single most important lexical
innovation of Danker's edition is its inclusion
of extended definitions for Greek terms. For
instance, a key meaning of "episkopos" was
defined in the second American edition as
overseer; Danker defines it as "one who has the
responsibility of safeguarding or seeing to it
that something is done in the correct way,
guardian." Such extended definitions give a
fuller sense of the word in question, which will
help avoid both anachronisms and confusion among
users of the lexicon who may not be native
speakers of English.
Danker's edition of Bauer's Wörterbuch will be an
indispensable guide for Biblical and classical
scholars, ministers, seminarians, and translators.
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Spotlight Reviews (What's this?)
Write an online review and share your thoughts with other customers.
11 of 13 people found the following review helpful:
Consider the 1979 edition at half the price (used)!, April 12, 2004
Reviewer: A reader (Northfield,
Minnesota) Danker brings tremendous industry and
learning to this new edition of what is, without
question, the ultimate lexicon of New Testament
Greek in English. Since so many other reviews
appraise the (very great) absolute value of the
3rd edition, I feel that it's appropriate to
sound a cautionary note about whether the 3rd
edition really shines that much relative to the
2nd edition. (...)
In short, the 2nd edition is a monument of
scholarship, a rock of scholarly solidity and
clarity that has not been suddenly rendered
obsolete. One's enthusiasm for shelling out for
the 3rd edition is a bit dampened when you
consider several issues:
(...)To conclude, there is obviously an audience
who needs to have the absolute most current
edition: namely, scholars who are going to follow
up all the references in the bibliography, who
need to have the published record (the 3rd
edition) of every iota of deepened reflection
reached by Danker. But the 2nd edition is not
just a book now useful only to "unscholarly"
readers. It was published in 1979, making use of
Qumran material, etc., and it continues to offer
its users a lucid and authoritative account of
the NT lexicon.
I am not a NT specialist, but a Classics
professor. I think my demands for quality
philological information with which to read the
NT are pretty high. The 2nd edition meets them to
my satisfaction. I'd not be distressed to have
only the 3rd edition--on the whole, its
advantages outweigh its annoyances--but there is
certainly not $50 worth of difference in the
value of these editions.
Was this review helpful to you? (Report this)
6 of 10 people found the following review helpful:
Quite Usable, January 27, 2001
Reviewer: Jonathan Bailey (Lawton,
OK USA) - See all my reviews I am reviewing the
second edition of this book, having only recently
discovered the third edition, which may have a
number of differences. This lexicon is one of the
more thorough lexicons of the New Testament. It
gives a wealth of information about each word,
including several definitions as well as examples
of its use in various places in scripture and
other ancient writings. Even opinions of various
scholars about meanings are found. The book is
touted as the lexicon that gives you the
information that you need to make a personal
decision about what the word means, discovering
the definition on your own. The most common
complaint about the lexicon is that it is so
exhaustive that it can be difficult to use, and
people often prefer to have a smaller dictionary
that will just give them a quick definition. I
have personally been quite impressed by the
usability of this lexicon, however. For each word
there are short, concise definitions in italics,
and one can ignore all the supplementary
information if one wills. If one can only afford
one lexicon, I would hope they would get this
one. It is the standard lexicon, and the
complaints about it being cumbersome are
unfounded. --This text refers to the Hardcover
edition
2 of 4 people found the following review helpful:
This one is a must, September 28, 2004
Reviewer: Drew Evans "Third Angel"
(Michigan) - See all my reviews
Don't listen to one reviewer's suggestion to
save some money and buy a used second edition.
Gordon D. Fee in his masterful introduction to
exegetical method, says very strongly:
"This third edition of Bauer is a considerable
improvement over the first two editions--so much
so that if you have not yet purchased a lexicon,
THIS ONE IS A MUST (rather than a secondhand
second edition, for example)."
There simply isn't anything that beats this one,
and so if digging into the bible is what you
want, you have to get the right tools. This is
the shovel for you. Save up and accept no
alternatives. You will be happy you got this work.
8 of 11 people found the following review helpful:
I spent my babys milk money for this!, March 24, 2004
Reviewer: Robert Wynkoop (Washington State) - See all my reviews
While attending seminary, like most
theological students, I purchased Thayers
Greek-English Lexicon. It was good and easy to
use. But as I advanced in my studies my
professors were increasingly critical of Thayer
and expected us to use the more scholarly
Arndt/Gingrich. So as a impoverished theological
student with a wife and baby, I purchased
Arndt/Gringrich with my babys milk money so I
could be more scholarly.
I wish I saved my money. Do not get me wrong. It
is by far the superior lexicon. Its definitions
are massive and the survey of a words etymology
is unsurpassed; but realistically, it has more
information than this country preacher is looking
for. Like detective Joe Friday of Dragnet fame,
all I want is the facts.
Behind me as I write this review is my
theological library. Two lexicons,
Arndt/Gringrich and Thayers stand side by side.
Occasionally, when I need a lexicon in my
biblical studies, I always turn to Thayer. So
unless you are planning on writing for a
theological journal, save your babys milk money
and use Thayer. --This text refers to the
Hardcover edition
Invaluable resource, December 1, 2003
Reviewer: Rev. Dr. Bradley L. Sidle
(Xenia, OH USA) - See all my reviews The third
edition of this classic work contains even more
examples, citations, and helps than the second
edition. I personally preferred the less ornate
Greek text of the second edition, but this is a
very small critique of a tremendous work.
No serious scholar should be without this. And
for those who are perfectly comfortable with
computer aided research, this hard copy has the
appeal of being strikingly browse-able, like
window-shopping in the language.
8 of 9 people found the following review helpful:
an essential, September 19, 2002
Reviewer: NotATameLion (Michigan) - See all my reviews
With the exception of the short dictionary at
the back of my Greek New Testament, no tool has
been of more use in my study of Biblical Greek
than this lexicon.
More than just a dictionary, the strength of this
lexicon is that it gives both specific meanings
of words in context as well as a knowledge of the
shadings of meaning that a word carries
throughout the Bible. This moves the student from
a general grasp of a thing to an attentiveness to
the precise way God has made himself known--there
is nothing quite like it.
As other reviewers have noted, this is probably
not a good place for beginners hoping to do a
word study to jump in. I'd recommend Vine's for
that. I also recommend that those serious in the
study of Biblical Greek use this book in
conjunction with a Greek New Testament, Mr.
Mounce's Grammar (his lexicon is handy too), and
Zerwick's Grammatical Analysis. This broad group
of tools should help keep you from falling pray
to a single interpretive spin. Don't let its size
and price scare you off--this book is essential
for the student of Biblical Greek. --This text
refers to the Hardcover edition
Yours,
Harold Holmyard
More information about the B-Greek
mailing list