[B-Greek] Questions on Gal 2:17 - AUTOI

Carl W. Conrad cwconrad at artsci.wustl.edu
Thu Oct 21 08:49:13 EDT 2004


At 6:35 AM -0500 10/21/04, Harold R. Holmyard III wrote:
>Dear Carlton,
>
>>The basic verb stem in this verb is EUR (see aorist EURON). This
>>class verb (class V in Brooks and Winbery, Morphology) adds ISK for
>>the first principle part (present and imperfect). In the other
>>principle parts there is added an epenthetic E/H (regularly done in
>>liquid stem verbs). Hence the sixth principle part which adds QH to
>>the stem has an E added to the rho for euphony.
>
>Thank you. I suspected that there might be a sort of aorist root. I
>gather then that the form would be EUREQWMEN if the verb were an
>aorist passive subjunctive first person plural of EURISKW. You make
>it sound as though a good way to think is to look for what Goetchius
>calls the verb base, "the morpheme or combination of morphemes which
>remains invariable throughout the entire paradigm of the verb." So in
>ISTHMI it would be the -ST-, with other items added for various
>reasons. It would be those various reasons that can be hard to figure
>out and why a book like your Morphology might be helpful.

It's better yet to think in terms of roots as functionally equivalent to
the triliteral Hebrew roots; although it's not always the case, it is quite
frequently that the roots are readily discernible in the aorist stem. For
hISTHMI it's STH/STA (originally alternating long-A with short-A, but the
long-A became H); for BAINW it's BH/BA; for hEURISKW it's hEUR-; this works
best for verbs that have an aorist that's not sigmatic (thematic,
athematic, kappa second aorists). That's why some are suggesting that it
might be preferable in learning Greek and for lexical purposes to use the
aorist (perhaps the infinitive) as the lemma for verbs; that would yield
STHNAI, BHNAI, hEUREIN, DOUNAI (DW/DO)--from which the root is readily
discernible.

>				Yours,
>				Harold Holmyard
>
>>In a message dated 10/20/04 12:04:55 PM, hholmyard at ont.com writes:
>>
>>>Dear Remington,
>>>
>>>I wrote: "And before the passive ending, verbs in -SK go to -C. So
>>>possibly the 1st aorist passive subjunctive form could have been
>>>EURICQWMEN."
>>>
>>>Actually I do not see instructions to drop the "S," so perhaps it
>>>would be EURISCQWMEN.
>>>
>>
>>The basic verb stem in this verb is EUR (see aorist EURON). This
>>class verb (class V in Brooks and Winbery, Morphology) adds ISK for
>>the first principle part (present and imperfect). In the other
>>principle parts there is added an epenthetic E/H (regularly done in
>>liquid stem verbs). Hence the sixth principle part which adds QH to
>>the stem has an E added to the rho for euphony.
>>
>>Hope this helps,
>>
>>Carlton Winbery
>>Louisiana College
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