[B-Greek] Nicander, BAPTW, and BAPTIZW
Arie Dirkzwager
dirkzwager at pandora.be
Sat Oct 30 04:03:58 EDT 2004
David,
If I read about cookery and an author that cannot be found, I presume that
we have to do with a quotation in the Deipnosophistae by Athenaeus. I looked
into the first volume of the edition I possess and found that Athenaeus is
quoting Nicander quite often.
For the moment I do not have the time to look further into the text of
Athenaeus, but perhaps you can find the text you are looking for now.
Arie
Dr. A. Dirkzwager
Hoeselt, Belgium
e-mail dirkzwager at pandora.be
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Van: "David G. Jones" <dgjones40 at earthlink.net>
Aan: <b-greek at lists.ibiblio.org>
Verzonden: vrijdag 29 oktober 2004 20:17
Onderwerp: [B-Greek] Nicander, BAPTW, and BAPTIZW
> My attention has been called to a statement made by Nicander (200 BC)
> in which he describes pickle-making as involving a process of BAPTW
> followed by BAPTIZW. Mike Dewus also referred to this Nicander
> passage in a message on this list (Nov. 8, 2003), in which he says it
> was quoted by James Montgomery Boice (in Bible Study Magazine, May
> 1989).
>
> Boice draws the following conclusion from Nicander's statement:
> "Both verbs concern the immersing of vegetables in a solution. But
> the first is temporary. The second, the act of baptizing the
> vegetable, produces a permanent change."
>
> I have not been able to find the Nicander source on the Internet (it
> is not among the documents on the Perseus site).
>
> My questions are:
>
> (1) Did Nicander use both BAPTW and BAPTIZW as words having a
> different significance or consequence or effect (i.e., temporary
> versus permanent change, as Boice suggests)?
>
> (2) If he did, was that distinction between BAPTW and BAPTIZW still
> present in the first century A.D.? (I do not discern such a
> distinction in the definitions in BDAG or Louw and Nida).
>
> My own impression is that Boice is making an invalid distinction
> between the two.
>
> Thanks,
>
> David G. Jones
> Austin, TX
>
>
>
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