[B-Greek] Colossians 1:15
Arie Dirkzwager
dirkzwager at pandora.be
Wed Sep 29 03:52:45 EDT 2004
Gary,
This question is one of interpretation. Genitives can conceal various sorts
of relationships.
So it is not the Greek text that decides what to translate.
You have the surrounding verses, you have other "firstborn-texts" (e.g. Rev
1: 5). You should decide if those firstborn-texts are speaking about the
same "aspect" of Christ as your text in Col.
And do not forget Ps 89: 28 and 38 (the last verse as related to Rev 1: 5).
Whether Jesus was a created being, is in my opinion a question that cannot
be settled with your verse alone.
So the greater part of your questions is laying beyond the scope of this
list - in my opinion.
Arie
Dr. A. Dirkzwager
Hoeselt, Belgium
e-mail dirkzwager at pandora.be
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Van: "Gary Hedrick" <gary at cjf.org>
Aan: <b-greek at lists.ibiblio.org>
Verzonden: woensdag 29 september 2004 8:02
Onderwerp: RE: [B-Greek] Colossians 1:15
Fellow listers, we're trying to decide here if the best translation
of prototokos paseis ktiseos in Col. 1:15 is "firstborn over all creation"
or "firstborn of all creation." The NIV and NKJV have "over all creation,"
but is this really what the text says?
Do you think paseis is best understood here as a genitive of
comparison? The issue, of course, is whether Jesus was a created being, the
beginning of creation. Any thoughts?
Dr. Gary Hedrick
CJF Ministries
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[mailto:b-greek-bounces at lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Frances Hardy
Sent: Monday, September 20, 2004 6:18 PM
To: b-greek at lists.ibiblio.org
Subject: [B-Greek] Accents
Hi,
I haven't been following the thread on accents, but since we're all talking
about it, are there any articles that people could point me to outlining the
usage of accents in an easy to understand fashion? I'm doing first year
Greek, and I'm told that in second year we will be getting marked on our use
of accents. I'm sure we'll have it explained to us, but I'm starting to get
to the point where there are just to many whys.
Thanks
Frances
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