[B-Greek] demonstrative pronouns

Elizabeth Kline kline-dekooning at earthlink.net
Sun Dec 11 13:43:05 EST 2005


On Dec 11, 2005, at 9:28 AM, Bert de Haan wrote:

> Yancy Smith <Y.W.Smith at tcu.edu>  wrote
>
>   .....Still, here you
> might revise the idea of "near" and "far." The stand point of the
> evangelist, or the implied author, is that of omniscient narrator. So
> he is equally present with all his characters. In this case
> "hUPERHTAI" is more remote grammatically and so the rule of "near/
> far" can be seen to apply.
> ==========
> "hUPERHTAI" is more remote grammatically so the "near/far" rule  
> would make
> hUPERHTAI the referent of  EKEINOI.  Yet it is AUTOIS that has to  
> refer to
> hUPERHTAI.

Bert,

I wonder if "remote grammatically" is the issue. See BDF #291.

JOHN 7:32 HKOUSAN hOI FARISAIOI TOU OCLOU GOGGUZONTOS PERI AUTOU  
TAUTA, KAI APESTEILAN hOI ARCIEREIS KAI hOI FARISAIOI hUPHRETAS hINA  
PIASWSIN AUTON.
JOHN 7:45 HLQON OUN hOI hUPHRETAI PROS TOUS ARCIEREIS KAI FARISAIOUS,  
KAI EIPON AUTOIS EKEINOI: DIA TI OUK HGAGETE AUTON;

In JOHN 7:32 hOI ARCIEREIS KAI hOI FARISAIOI send the hUPHRETAS to  
seize Jesus. From v33-45 hOI ARCIEREIS KAI hOI FARISAIOI are not on  
the scene. In 7:45 it is the hUPHRETAI who have been present and  
observing the action.

However, in the final analysis, anaphoric reference is resolved  
semantically. In this case the content of the speech act DIA TI OUK  
HGAGETE AUTON leaves not doubt about who is speaking.



Elizabeth Kline







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