[B-Greek] 1 John 1:5; NOTE
Carl W. Conrad
cwconrad at artsci.wustl.edu
Thu Feb 17 09:46:45 EST 2005
I think George has judged wisely regarding this question--that it really is
NOT a matter of understanding what the Greek text says and means AS A GREEK
TEXT, but rather of understanding the semantics of a text the literal sense
of which is clear. As has been noted from the outset of discussion of this
question, an answer to whether or not the identification of QEOS and FWS in
this text is intended to be literal or metaphorical is not to be resolved
in terms of how we understand the Greek text; rather it's a matter of
hermeneutical methods that we individually prefer to accept. We don't
discuss hermeneutics on this list.
At 9:39 AM -0500 2/17/05, George F Somsel wrote:
>On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 08:21:46 -0600 "Charles Rempel"
><CharlesR at mygalaxyexpress.com> writes:
>> Hi George,
>>
>> I would presume then that you also take Revelation 22:5 to be
>> metaphorical?
>> Is the reason that you take them to be metaphorical because they
>> are
>> visions?
>>
>> > Charles D. Rempel
>> > 30 Year Student
>> > Without Portfolio
>> __________________
>>
>> Charles,
>>
>> No. I think it is evident that Re 21.23 is a metaphorical usage.
>> It is
>> not meant to be taken literally.
>>
>> george
>> gfsomsel
>> ___________
>
>We are getting away from the discussion of Greek and into the area of
>expositon so I'll limit my response to one sentence after which we'd
>better drop it. Yes, a vision sets forth the message of the passage in
>pictorial form in classical prophecy we encounter such in, e.g. Amos'
>vision of summer fruit (though there the explanation is also given) or
>Jeremiah's vision of the pot tilted from the north (again, the
>explanation is given), likewise the New Jerusalem is described as the
>Bride and thus not literally a city and is therefore not to be taken
>literally as a city. Anything further had best be offlist.
--
Carl W. Conrad
Co-Chair, B-Greek List
Department of Classics, Washington University (Emeritus)
cwconrad at artsci.wustl.edu
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