FW: [B-Greek] UTF
William Zeitler
william at faithfulbible.com
Fri Jan 7 14:30:25 EST 2005
>the term UTF (really there is UTF-7, UTF-8 and UTF-16) applies to document
encoding, not fonts.
Actually, both. You need both the document and the font to use the same
encoding schema (e.g. both the document and the font must agree that
04ff29bHEX == 'alpha with a rough breather'). If the document uses an
encoding schema that doesn't match the font's, you get a mess.
Even within Unicode there are different schemas (e.g. Normalization Form C
vs. D, which are specifically concerned with diacritical marks).
A good article can be found at
http://www.stoa.org/unicode/index.html
william zeitler
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[mailto:b-greek-bounces at lists.ibiblio.org]On Behalf Of James Tauber
Sent: Friday, January 07, 2005 11:14 AM
To: jwest at highland.net
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Subject: Re: [B-Greek] UTF
I think George (and my) confusion was that in the first half you seem to be
wanting to translate a particular font from being non-Unicode to Unicode but
in the second half you seem to be wanting to translate documents to Unicode
so they students can use a Unicode font.
Minor corrections (although they might help explain some things):
1. it doesn't make sense to speak of a font as UTF, only as Unicode. Saying
a font is Unicode means that the characters have been assigned numbers (or
more precisely character codes) in accordance with the Unicode standard
rather than some other standard or a proprietary mapping.
2. the term UTF (really there is UTF-7, UTF-8 and UTF-16) applies to
document encoding, not fonts. Each of the UTFs is a particular way of
writing out the Unicode character codes.
Hope this clarified things, although not answering your original question.
James Tauber
On 8/1/05 1:07 AM, "George F Somsel" <gfsomsel at juno.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 07 Jan 2005 09:43:12 -0500 Jim West <jwest at highland.net> writes:
>> Listers,
>> is there any way of converting a true type font to a UTF font (or is
>> that
>> even possible)? I have a font (greek parse) and wish to use it on a
>> greek
>> course for the web- so instead of asking students to d/l the
>> particular
>> font I understand that most computers now read UTF.
>>
>> I apologize for the ignorance of the question and its probably not
>> even put
>> rightly.
>>
>> Jim
> ________________
>
> I'm assuming that you're talking about changing the coding for a Greek
> legacy font (one that uses the same keyboard mapping as, e.g. English) so
> that it is unicode compliant. There is not problem with reassigning the
> glyphs to different codes, but I've certainly never done it so I don't
> know how much difficulty there would be. I suspect that there would be
> more problem with receiving permission from the copyright holder to do
> so. But why go to this bother? There are a number of unicode fonts
> which cover polytonic Greek so there is no need to do so unless you have
> special needs such as Wieland Wilker mentioned with his presentation of
> the early codices of the NT. I believe it was Ken Penner who mentioned a
> program which could convert these legacy texts to unicode (you would
> still need to use one of the newer unicode fonts, not the same old font).
> What is involved in this is basically a search and replace operation.
>
> george
> gfsomsel
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