[B-Greek] 1 Peter 1:15
kgraham0938 at comcast.net
kgraham0938 at comcast.net
Sun Jan 9 23:08:27 EST 2005
@Steve:
You wrote
"So the burden, as I said in my last post, is on you to prove that
GENHQHTW in Mt 26.42 CANNOT be sensibly construed as middle"
Response: I don't see how GENHQHTW can be seen as a middle, because that would mean that God's will is being done to himself, that would make no sense.
Jesus is praying that his will be carried out by himself. That he would be able to perform the Father's will.
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Kelton Graham
KGRAHAM0938 at comcast.net
> On Jan 9, 2005, at 3:03 PM, Charles Rempel wrote:
>
> > GENHQHTE
> >
> > Matthew 26:42 He went away again a second time and prayed, saying, "My
> > Father, if this cannot pass away unless I drink it, Your will be done."
> >
> > GENHQHTO TO QELHMA SOU - aorist passive imperative 3s
> >
> > Concept remains passive in my understanding as per previous posts.
>
> This doesn't really help your case, since the middle may be used in
> such a prayer with no apparent semantic difference:
>
> Mt 26.42 PATER MOU, EI OU DUNATAI TOUTO PARELQEIN EAN MH AUTO PIW,
> GENHQHTW TO QELHMA SOU
>
> MPoly 7.1 KAKEIQEN DE HDUNATO EIS hETERON CWRION APELQEIN, ALL' OUK
> HBOULHQH, EIPWN: TO QELHMA TOU QEOU GENESQW
>
> So the burden, as I said in my last post, is on you to prove that
> GENHQHTW in Mt 26.42 CANNOT be sensibly construed as middle and GENESQW
> in MPoly 7.1 CANNOT be sensibly construed as passive. In light of MPoly
> 7.1, it is clear that a middle form of GINOMAI is indeed an active
> option in a prayer for God's will to be accomplished. And I'm sure Carl
> would suggest that GENESQW in MPoly 7.1 may be understood as
> semantically passive. The point, though, is that determining this on
> the basis of morphology is questionable at best.
> ============
>
> Steven Lo Vullo
> Madison, WI
>
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