Re [B-Greek] Bad grammer in Rev??

kgraham0938 at comcast.net kgraham0938 at comcast.net
Wed Jan 12 22:08:01 EST 2005


Here are some other things that I think are kinda weird:

I don't see an antecedent in Rev 11:1?

KAI  EDOQH MOI KALAMOS hOMOIOS RABDWI (LEGWN)???

And there was given to me a reed like a staff saying??

And should'nt LEGWN in 4:1 be feminine?

And when you look at Chpt 11:15 LEGONTES is masculine plural, but MEGALAI FWNAI is femine, but when you look at verse 12 of the same chpt he  LEGOUSHS is in agreement with  FWNHS MEGALHS.

this is really interesting indeed.

--
Kelton Graham
KGRAHAM0938 at comcast.net


> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: <Remington186 at aol.com>
> To: <b-greek at lists.ibiblio.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2005 7:50 PM
> Subject: Re [B-Greek] Bad grammer in Rev??
> 
> 
> > On, 1/12/05 12:41:21 PM Pacific Standard Time
> > Barry Hofstetter, nebarry at verizon.net, wrote,
> >
> >>> From: Remington186 at aol.com
> >>> Date: 2005/01/12 Wed PM 03:30:25 EST
> >>> To: b-greek at lists.ibiblio.org
> >>> Subject: Re: [B-Greek] Bad grammer in Rev??
> >
> >>> Regarding this thread...
> >>> We know that the first Erasmus Greek text had Revelation only as a
> >>> translation of the Vulgate *back* into Greek by Desiderius himself
> > [Gerhard >>Gerhards]...
> >
> >>Not quite, Remington -- it was only the last 4 verses of Revelation that he >
> > retroverted -- the manuscript was actually broken off at that point.
> > Erasmus' first >edition was 1515.
> >
> >>N.E. Barry Hofstetter
> >
> > What manuscript "was actually broken off at that point"?
> 
> I think I was doing the "over 40" thing writing from memory.
> 
> I just checked Metzger: it was actually the last 6 verses, not the last four, 
> and Metzger does not say "broken off" but that the final leaf is missing.  He 
> claims that the ms of Revelation that Erasmus used was from the 12th century, 
> and that there were several other places in the ms that were so mixed up with 
> the "adjoining Greek commentary" that Erasmus also retroverted those passages 
> from the Vulgate as well as the final 6 verses.
> 
> Of course, this is no problem with modern critical editions, which have 
> available more and older manuscripts than did Erasmus.
> 
> N.E. Barry Hofstetter
> Adjunct Faculty, The Center for Urban Theological Studies
>          Philadelphia, PA
> http://www.cuts.edu
> Visiting Faculty, Reformed Theological Seminary
>          Washington, D.C.
> http://www.rts.edu/campuses/washington_dc/index.cfm
> 
> And me:
> http://mysite.verizon.net/nebarry/
> 
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